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    Hello to all, what you guys think of my para helmet for sale?




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    #2
    Post war paint job, possibly post war helmet (how do you know for sure the liner was not 1953 dated?) and overpriced for what it is.




    Originally posted by Kelly sch View Post
    Hello to all, what you guys think of my para helmet for sale?




    Thanks

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      #3
      My thoughts excactly,there are also postwar liners that have the markings in the same way as the ww2 marking ,thus making it impossible to date this one.

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        #4
        Kelly, Totally agree with Des he beat me to it, Very over priced, horrible postwar colour repaint. Interia paint inside rim looks very like the post 53 BMB's ..wartime ones are considerably a darker grey yours looks to green. The fact the date on liner just happens to have taken a hit is just to much of coinsidence and convinces me this helmet is postwar and somebody down the track has tried to pass it of as a ww2 example

        Greg
        Last edited by Greg B; 04-25-2009, 01:54 AM.

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          #5
          Originally posted by jelle View Post
          My thoughts excactly,there are also postwar liners that have the markings in the same way as the ww2 marking ,thus making it impossible to date this one.
          Ya but have you seen one? I doubt it. There is no post war BMB stamp in WW2 style since none were made until 1950's. Show me one. And prove me wrong.

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            #6
            I will believe Gary, old Smelly and Jelle's opinion from my past thread. Until proved otherwise it's a WW2 BMB with a post war repaint.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Greg B View Post
              Kelly, Totally agree with Des he beat me to it, Very over priced, horrible postwar colour repaint. Interia paint inside rim looks very like the post 53 BMB's ..wartime ones are considerably a darker grey yours looks to green. The fact the date on liner just happens to have taken a hit is just to much of coinsidence and convinces me this helmet is postwar and somebody down the track has tried to pass it of as a ww2 example

              Greg
              You guys to quick to discount a helmet. I have in my collection a Turtle Mk III with exact paint job inside. Shell is dated 1944.

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                #8
                Originally posted by DJT View Post
                Post war paint job, possibly post war helmet (how do you know for sure the liner was not 1953 dated?) and overpriced for what it is.
                Because Thats a WW2 BMB stamp.

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                  #9
                  Ha! You ask for opinions and immediately get on the defensive!!

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by jelle View Post
                    My thoughts excactly,there are also postwar liners that have the markings in the same way as the ww2 marking ,thus making it impossible to date this one.
                    On JAn 24/09 you stated

                    "Indeed there was no production of parahelmets by BMB after 1944 till 1952,probably for the reasons Gary mentions."

                    And when they started up in 1952 they had entirely different stamping. Not same as WW2. SO this proves it then to be WW2.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Jack Dutton-Roberts View Post
                      Ha! You ask for opinions and immediately get on the defensive!!
                      Lol prove me wrong then smart guy.

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                        #12
                        Kelly, I think you owe the guys an apology mate! you asked for opinions and you got them. They may be what you dont want to hear but none the less guys took time out to reply to your question.

                        Theres only one smart ass here thats made a right cock of him self by losing your rag over comments that you dont want to hear.

                        If you already know it all ....why place this question here ?

                        The fact is its a Postwar repaint at the very least and with no wartime date, the value of this helmet as a disirable collectable piece to me is nil others maybe a couple of hundred tops.

                        Greg
                        Last edited by Greg B; 04-25-2009, 07:58 AM.

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                          #13
                          Guys, you have all made very relevant points. I think it is very possibly a wartime helmet but with the missing date and the repaint it is nowhere near as desirable as a sleepy 44 dated example and the price should reflect this. Also the fact that no one has seen a post war stamp in this style doesn't mean that they do not exist, research is still ongoing. We'll have to wait to see if it sells.
                          Lee

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                            #14
                            I would like to hear comments on the burn marks. I think Scott highlighted this once. Many para helmets seem to have this burning - and nearly always in the same area. Any ideas why ?

                            Regards,
                            Steve

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by SMP View Post
                              I would like to hear comments on the burn marks. I think Scott highlighted this once. Many para helmets seem to have this burning - and nearly always in the same area. Any ideas why ?

                              Regards,
                              Steve
                              I think by the Internal colour that this Is quite probably a wartime piece. However, as has already been pointed out, It Is not a very nice example of what Is In effect a very common helmet. And before you jump on me kelly trying to tell me how rare and valuable It Is I would not have paid £100 for It 2or 3 years ago. There has been an influx of people Into this side of the hobby lately and that has driven up prices significantly In the last couple of years. It's usually new collectors who pick up this kind of thing In the first flush of enthusiasm. The dealers of course can spot Inexperience a mile off and adjust their prices accordingly. usually some time down the line the scales fall away and the now slightly more experienced collector, finding no serious collector wants his wares, finds another newbie to stick it to and the whole horrible charade starts again.

                              In short; why come on here and get angry because people aren't saying what you want to hear. You've made a mistake, live with It, we all have to. It's a learning curve and If you can recoup some or most of the cost then that's what the lesson hads cost you. I suspect you won't make teh same mistake again .

                              Happy collecting, Yours, Guy.

                              Steve, as far as the burning go's I don't think that Is what It Is. I believe there Is some sort of reaction going on between sweat, the leather and possibly the sorbo and what we are seeing Is In fact rot. I hope that helps a bit.

                              Yours, Guy.
                              Last edited by Beau Brummel.; 04-25-2009, 06:20 AM.

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