Para helmets ???

[WINGS]

I think I'l leave my bid as it is (only the starting price) and let someone else go for it.

Does anyone know a quick easy way to tell the M76 lightweight para lid from the newer kevlar version.

Im hoping to get an example of all the Brit para lids (Well one day maybee)
The same with standard infantry lids.

[Beau Brummel.]

Why can't I score one for a measely ill octopus, It's not fair You're right about the way things are going. Give It a few years and we'll be seeing the same thing with these helmets I'm sure. pound to a pinch of s##t that dodgy fibre rimmed shell shown will turn up with fake liner and straps before long.

Yours, Guy.

Yeah, 6 pounds that cost me. Still got the auction room invoice.

Ive seen some of the lengths that people have gone to fake the German helmets. Air brushing, wacking them with chains to simulate wear.............its worrying and one of the reason why I wouldnt spend 3 grand on a falshirmjager camo example. Theres some guy knocking four out per month on eBay and theres nothing anyone can do about it.

Still that guys got some cheek, its like someone knocking together Hitlers desk when you know your the only guy who owns the original

Ive seen similar things happen with WW2 medal groups. The documents get split 4 ways and before you know it there are four groups all to the same man! The owner of the original set becomes a little upset.

[Felix J]

"Does anyone know a quick easy way to tell the M76 lightweight para lid from the newer kevlar version."

There is not a great deal of difference in terms of look, the most obvious thing being that the ballistic kevlar one has a textured finish like that found on the MK6, where as the plastic/fiberglass ones are a smooth finish. Also if there is still the label inside the Kevlar ones started production in 2001 from memory, so anything earlier is non kevlar.

Hope that helps,

Felix

[WINGS]

Hi thanks for the info.
Steve

[WINGS]

Depends on what your price range is ? This helmet was at Stoneliegh - the price was 3500 Euros !!!

Regards,
Steve

It finally sold for £2,350.
Definately out of my price range

[Jack Dutton-Roberts]

And definitely not one you'd want in your collection!

Jack.

[lnijherald]

It finally sold for £2,350.
Definately out of my price range

It sold on 11 Februari on ebay and on the 20 Februari it was added to the catalogue of a French webshop. I wonder what happened.

It is available at 3900 euro btw.

Cheers, Luc

[SMP]

It sold on 11 Februari on ebay and on the 20 Februari it was added to the catalogue of a French webshop. I wonder what happened.

It is available at 3900 euro btw.

Cheers, Luc

Hmmmm ...!
Have you got a link ?

[lnijherald]

There you go:

http://www.paratrooper.fr/

Click militaria original, scroll down a bit then cliquez pour entrer.

Cheers, Luc

The links doesn't seem to work, just delete everything after www.paratrooper.fr/

[yellow]

£2,350

It seams prices have doubled in 12 months.

Good to see the price is catching up with the German stuff but I have to say on a comparitive scale you can buy a WW2 MM with a fireing the Bren gun from the hip citation for £1850. I know which I`d rather have.

[ROBB]

Why can't I score one for a measely ill octopus," ill octopus " what sort of rhyming slang is that .Rob

[SMP]

Why can't I score one for a measely ill octopus," ill octopus " what sort of rhyming slang is that .Rob

I think he means "sick squid "

[Beau Brummel.]

I do indeed, .

BTW, before everyone gets all moist about the gusset thinking about how they are going to retire on the proceeds from their fibre rim I feel I should point out that very nice examples can still be found at around the £1000 mark. They are less common these days but do turn up.

To put the piece in question into perspecticve, a good friend on this forum purchased the nicest, sand camouflaged, SD M38 I have ever seen for around £3000 last year! It knocked this manky POS into the shade and had provenance to boot! Call me old fashioned but If I was going to dump the better part of $6000 on a fibre rim It had better have Arnhem provenance going right back to the original owner.

We are at a similar milestone to that passed by the SS and Fallschirmjager collectors some years ago. Our collecting field Is now deemed fashionable and as a consequence is becoming over run with a new breed of collectors and dealers. The collectors are more concerned about the price of an item than It's historical merit and the dealers (for the main wealthy individuals with other businesses, looking for somewhere to burn their black money) are only too happy to feed the Chimera they have themselves created. Both parties are, as a rule, wholly ignorant of the items they handle but with a great big ego and even bigger price tag, hey why should they give a f@@k?

Sorry if that sounded cynical but sadly thats the way things are going.

Yours, Guy.

[lnijherald]

The winning bidder of this fibre rim bought another one (recce if memory serves me well) on ebay last year for a large sum. Apparently he knew it had good Market Garden provenance, in fact he once was the owner and he regretted selling it and he simply had to win it back.
I assumed this was the case again with the helmet we are discussing, and that is why I wondered why it is for sale now in France.

Cheers, Luc

[yellow]

May I ask you gentlemen, what exactly is Arnhem provinance?

The reason why I ask is because I cannot think of any item Ive ever owned in 20 years that I could prove was actually in a specific battle. I can certainly prove a medal was won in a particular battle but with issued equipment that was often replaced I see that as almost impossible unless the item has contemporary brass plaque attached e.g German Rifles from WW1.