this is a group from a royal navy signal boy, the lot consist of 3 medals and cased small photo of navy vet ,the book are army and navy drolleries, inside booh is a scroll that he gave is life with his name on hms good hope, one another page message written in book, this book belonged to w.e. dowling who lost his life whilst fighting as a signal boy on board h.m.s. good hope off chile 1st november 1914 for his nephew eric rainbird, the 3 medal all have his name rank and serial number..the photo is in good condition case complete but in 2 piece, the silver medal missing ribbonthe book with his name in poor condition but deos have some prints in good condition, the other book our wonderfull navy fair conditionany idea of value of collection,, will be gone till saturday and then answer any email
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Thats a really nice collection you have there. The books on their own are worth a great deal. I have seen copies of Army and Navy Drolleries going for over £400 ($800) although the condition is not very good, I would still think that you would get around £80 or so, depending on the year of publication (I think the first edition was 1876). Our Wondeful Navy is not worth much at all on its own to be honest, around £8 - £10.
The fact that it comes complete with with medals and picture they are bound to be worth quite a bit. If you can get hold of his naval service records then this might bump the price up even more. They could well be available at the Public Records Office at Kew. I wouldn't like to guess how much the lot would be worth, it would all depend on what people are prepared to pay but I am sure it would go for a fair bit.
Here's a bit about the ship (taken from Wikipedia)...
HMS Good Hope was a 14,100-ton Drake-class armoured cruiser of the Royal Navy; she was originally planned to be named Africa, but was renamed before she was launched. Laid down on 11 September 1899 and launched on 21 February 1901, with her heaviest gun being of 9.2 inch calibre, she became the flagship of the 1st Cruiser Squadron, Atlantic Fleet, in 1906, and in 1908 became the flagship of the 2nd Cruiser Squadron.
She went into the Reserve Fleet in 1913, but following the mobilisation just before the outbreak of the First World War, she joined the 6th Cruiser Squadron. The 6th Cruiser Squadron was initially allocated to the Grand Fleet at Scapa Flow to replace the 4th Cruiser Squadron (of Monmouth class cruisers) which had previously been sent to Rear-Admiral Sir Christopher Craddock's North America and West Indies command to help protect British interests during the Mexican Revolution.
However, the Admiralty almost immediately (mistakenly) concluded that it was likely that German liners in New York and other ports on the United States Atlantic seaboard could convert themselves to armed merchant cruisers by installing guns which the Admiralty believed they carried in their holds. They therefore diverted Good Hope to further reinforce Craddock's force, and she left Portsmouth on 2 August 1914 under the command of Captain Philip Francklin. Craddock transferred his flag to her on her arrival at Halifax, Nova Scotia because, although 90% of her crew were reservists who had been given little opportunity to train together in the ship, she was faster than his current flagship HMS Suffolk.
For the next few weeks she was employed protecting British merchant shipping as far south as Pernambuco and later the Falkland Islands. She then embarked on the search for the German East Asiatic Squadron, leaving Stanley on 22 October for the west coast of South America via Cape Horn.
She was sunk along with HMS Monmouth by the German armoured cruisers Scharnhorst and Gneisenau under Admiral Graf Maximilian von Spee with the loss of her entire complement of 900 hands in the Battle of Coronel, on 1 November 1914, off the Chilean coast.Comment
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Hi Philipp, just in case you don't know what the medals are.
You have the 1914 Star, War Medal and the Victory Medal.
As Ciaran, suggested, it would be well worth doing some more research on him via the National Archives at Kew, London.
Cheers, Ade.Comment
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A nice WWI casualty group indeed. Perhaps his Memorial Plaque is floating around somewhere and can be reunited with the medals. If so it would be a wonderfully complete collection.
I can't comment on the books, as far as value, but the medals would attract interest from both Navy and WWI casualty collectors.
A pleasure to see them, how did you come to own them?
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hi thanks to all who have answered my thread. i have had these items for about 30 years now, i bought them from a antique dealer and he had a group of items and did not want to break them, there were coins in group that were enameled and made in to jewelry,and also a third reich cival aviation pin by juncker, that is the items he had, i wanted the tr pin for my collection, now that i started with forum became interested it items to find out more, i will try and find out about this boy mainly his age , in the picture he looks pretty young to be in the navy, thanks to the information on medals, only knew about world war medal did not know what the othere medals were for, i will be leaving on wedneday morning for a few days to miami and when i come back will answer any question, will try and get pins posted of jewelry today..the antique dealer i was dealing with would come up with a lot of real nice items and tried to buy all items from him so as not to loose the connection with him and that he would come to me first..Comment
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here are the 4 items that were coins made in to jewelry this was all part of same estateComment
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