'Reverse Attribution' of miniature medals

[Brandenburger]

Hi,

I got a set of miniatures in a frame with a photograph for Christmas and am trying to attribute them to somebody.

They are, from the research conducted so far, a unique grouping which are as follows:

Companion of the Order of the Bath
Distinguished Service Order and Bar
Queens South Africa Medal; Cape Colony: South Africa 1902
1914-1915 Star
British War Medal
Victory Medal; MID
Campaign General Service; Palestine
1939-45 Star
Defence Medal
War Medal
Delhi Dhurbar Medal 1911
Jubilee medal 1935
Coronation Medal 1937
Legion D'Honneur; Chevalier

So far I have only been able to work out that he was a general officer (I think, from his dress uniform) and that he won, before 1935:

Distinguished Service Order and Bar
Queens South Africa Medal; Cape Colony: South Africa 1902
1914-1915 Star
British War Medal
Victory Medal; MID
Delhi Dhurbar Medal 1911
Jubilee medal 1935
Legion D'Honneur; Chevalier

Anyone with any info that they may think is useful please post it.

I will try to get the photo of him put on in due course. (it is old and in a frame, so I'll need to take it out carefully).

Thanks,
Tom

[Imperial-German]

Hi,

I got a set of miniatures in a frame with a photograph for Christmas and am trying to attribute them to somebody.

They are, from the research conducted so far, a unique grouping which are as follows:

Companion of the Order of the Bath
Distinguished Service Order and Bar
Queens South Africa Medal; Cape Colony: South Africa 1902
1914-1915 Star
British War Medal
Victory Medal; MID
Campaign General Service; Palestine
1939-45 Star
Defence Medal
War Medal
Delhi Dhurbar Medal 1911
Jubilee medal 1935
Coronation Medal 1937
Legion D'Honneur; Chevalier

So far I have only been able to work out that he was a general officer (I think, from his dress uniform) and that he won, before 1935:

Distinguished Service Order and Bar
Queens South Africa Medal; Cape Colony: South Africa 1902
1914-1915 Star
British War Medal
Victory Medal; MID
Delhi Dhurbar Medal 1911
Jubilee medal 1935
Legion D'Honneur; Chevalier

Anyone with any info that they may think is useful please post it.

I will try to get the photo of him put on in due course. (it is old and in a frame, so I'll need to take it out carefully).

Thanks,
Tom

I have the first war rolls for the DSO and Bar so we may be able to narrow it down.

There is a roll for the Delhi Durbar and and Jubilee Medal

Need to see the pic really

By the way what monarch is on the DSO?

[Brandenburger]

Hi,

Brilliant, thanks.

That is the annoying thing it is mounted in a case by Spinks (which are held in by metal pins) so I can't see, it looks from the obverse to be a Victorian issue but the differences are so minor its almost unnoticable, especially on a miniature.

Will try to get the pics on ASAP.

Tom

[Imperial-German]

I reckon it is one of these as they are the only 3 up to 1920 with that combination.

Col G Carter-Campbell CB, DSO and bar and Legion of Honour.

Bt.Col (temp Maj General) Coffin, R.E CB, DSO and bar and Legion of Honour.

Col (temp Maj Gen) H W Higginson CB, DSO and bar and Legion of Honour.

[Imperial-German]

Just need to check which of the three are on the Delhi Durbar roll

[Brandenburger]

Hi,

Again, Brilliant, Thanks. I have searched over 200 names online (London Gazette and only one so far came anywhere near good).

The only thing is: He got his CB after 1920 I think, because he is not wearing it in the picture from 1935.
Although he was awarded his Legion D'Honneur before 1935 (most likely for WW1).

Here are the Photos:


Photo'


Overall

Regards
Tom

[Imperial-German]

When do you think he got his CB?

[Brandenburger]

Hi

I'm pretty sure he got his CB after 1935 but before 1952 (otherwise he would have got the coronation medal 1953).

Tom

[Imperial-German]

Hi

I'm pretty sure he got his CB after 1935 but before 1952 (otherwise he would have got the coronation medal 1953).

Tom

Tom the Answer lies in the Delhi Durbar medal roll as it will list his DSO and Bar. There cannot be many members who were awarded the DD and have the DSO.

[Imperial-German]

His WW2 entitlement also points to BEF France and Dunkirk.

[Mons 1914]

I reckon it is one of these as they are the only 3 up to 1920 with that combination.

Col G Carter-Campbell CB, DSO and bar and Legion of Honour.

Bt.Col (temp Maj General) Coffin, R.E CB, DSO and bar and Legion of Honour.

Col (temp Maj Gen) H W Higginson CB, DSO and bar and Legion of Honour.

I've check out these three guys, not looking good.

Carter-Campbell - Also had 4 Clasps to the QSA + KSA, served with the 2/Cameronians in Aug 1914, so the 1915 star is out.

C . Coffin, RE, also held the VC, not much info that I can find to date.

Higginson. Had 4 Claps to the QSA + KSA and the CMG.

Hope this helps

Scott

[Brandenburger]

Hi,

Thanks, I thought I knew coffin's name from somewhere. As for the other two thanks as well. This is proving to be annoyingly difficult to crack.

T


NB: Anyone any idea on the uniform? I was told it was General Officers Uniform by someone, but I have not seen anything identical in any of my reference books.

T

[Laurence Strong]

Going by his epaulets, he's at least a Colonel. Going by the cuff's I would have to say he is of General rank, as the cuff's for a Col would have 4 thin stripes of braid, not 2 thick one's.

Hope this helps.

[Brandenburger]

Going by his epaulets, he's at least a Colonel. Going by the cuff's I would have to say he is of General rank, as the cuff's for a Col would have 4 thin stripes of braid, not 2 thick one's.

Hope this helps.

Very much so, thanks (early-ish uniforms are not my thing), that narrows the search down then, I wonder how many Generals there were in 1935?? I would not have thought that many.

His uniform gives away little to me, no insignia nothing, the sword however looks interesting and maybe that will yield something. Maybe I'll ask the weaponry section?

Is it possible he is one of the first Brigadiers (seeing as they were only introduced in 1928)? or possibly a Major General (because of the similarities in this picture: http://www.militariamuseum.com/colle...ridgeman45.jpg or Lieutenant General as seen by this pic? of LG Stopford? http://www.firstworldwar.com/photos/...topford_01.jpg ).

Best Wishes,
Tom

[Brandenburger]

I have bought a copy of the Delhi Durbar 1911 roll, and so will start there.

T