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**leigh kitchen** · 06-24-2005, 07:21 AM

Love the names of some of those bidders - & the cheap at half the price winner -"sasphantom".

Sounds really mature, just surprised he gets that much pocket money..

**Jack Dutton-Roberts** · 06-24-2005, 07:43 AM

Hello people,

I actually think that price is very reasonable (for perhaps the rarest piece of webbing), considering last year one went on eBay for approximately $1200

Glad you got your stolen pictures sorted out now Ade

Thanks, from Jack.

**DJT** · 06-24-2005, 12:36 PM

One mans junk......

Technically it is just a piece of webbing, just like technically a knights cross is a bit of iron and silver

but its a great item that was standard kit to the SAS (+ Commando/Para units) and it is the rarest piece of P-37 webbing. As Jack says there have been other examples on ebay in the past that have far exceeded that amount so it is actually a reasonable price.

**ROBB** · 06-24-2005, 01:22 PM

Nah its a crazeeeeeeeee price ,even though the price of Knights crosses is total and utter madness for such a readily availiable award ,they were a gallantry medal and awarded for the highest deeds of bravery ,the ammo pouch just held gun mags ,when you kark it and the executors are going through your stuff, that ammo pouch will go straight in the skip whereas they will keep the £20 ring from Ratners and the sodastream and send them to auction .IMO Rob.

**Jack Dutton-Roberts** · 06-24-2005, 01:40 PM

Originally posted by ROBB

that ammo pouch will go straight in the skip whereas they will keep the £20 ring from Ratners

Exactly! That's why this item is such a rare and desirable piece and therefore commands a premium

Lemme think....what would I rather have....the ammo pouch that the person used when earning the gallantry award or the gallantry award itself. Nice as the medal is it would have to be the ammo pouch any day because that thing was actually there when it happened whereas the medal was just produced to recognise this fact. IMO the real bit of history will always be the pouch and not the medal. So, I'd rather have it any day.

Thanks, from Jack.

**Guy** · 06-24-2005, 02:57 PM

Agreed

**Adrian Stevenson** · 06-24-2005, 05:14 PM

Hi Guys, I am glad that this thread has stimulated a little discussion.

Would I like one of these pouches? The answer has got to be "yes". Would I pay that much for one? I would have to say "No". To be honest I am not sure what I would pay for one?

The last one I saw for sale was (I have told this story before) at Malvern show, about 4 or 5 years ago. My friend James had a stall. He sat there for several hours and failed to see a .45/HP pouch on the stall next to him

. Another friend, the late Dougie Preece, bought it and then taunted James with it for the rest of the day. Dougie sold it for about £85. That was very good money back then. The pouch had gun metal fittings, not brass.

Cheers, Ade.

**yellow** · 06-26-2005, 08:56 AM

I will confess I dont know a lot about WW2 equipment. WW1 is my primary interest. But what I do know is that Australian manufactured equipment is far more valuable than British.

I see that the seller in question first listed this as Australian and I am wondering if someone placed a massive bid before he made the adjustment to the description to........."Sorry its Mills"?

Steve.

**Adrian Stevenson** · 06-26-2005, 01:53 PM

Hi Steve, I have never heard of Aussie made webbing being more sought after before?

Cheers, Ade.

**yellow** · 06-27-2005, 07:19 AM

I often read the Light Horse Forum which keep me up to date on prices. I know that any of the Australian manufactured webbing used in WW1 is a fantastic price. Almost 10 times the price of any Brit/Canadian WW1. If I sold my entire collection I wouldnt be able to afford just one set! And the P08 leather stuff well I`d have to own oil fields in Russia to be able to make up a complete set....I jest you not!

To me it would seam a logical assumption that such a rare item of WW2 webbing as this would be even rarer if made by an Australian company.

No doubt more items were manufactured in Australia in WW2.....but like I said this is a rare item even manufactured by Mills.

Just my opinion chaps and you are far more educated on the subject than I but thats just how I see it.

Steve.

**Adrian Stevenson** · 07-05-2005, 02:37 PM

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...tem=6542377342

Sold now but someone got a very good deal.

Cheers, Ade.

**DJT** · 07-05-2005, 04:30 PM

Hi Ade,

Thats a weird one

It could be a legit variant but to me its not worth the same as the other pouch. All the hi power pouches I have seen in wartime photos are exactly like the previous example. That strange one looks more like the US pouch.

**Adrian Stevenson** · 07-05-2005, 04:41 PM

Hi Des, glad that you commented on this one. It is indeed very odd. I had not really studied it before but now looking at it in detail I don't think I would have bid on it either, well not as a Browning pouch anyway. The press stud fitting to the rear is the same us seen on the US made .45 Auto pouches. I would tend to view this pouch as a British made peice of US kit.

Cheers, Ade.

**DJT** · 07-05-2005, 04:51 PM

Hi Ade,

I tend to agree with you. British made pouch for the US army. Good price for the seller but someone believed too much in the description and seriously overpaid IMO.

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