forthcoming ss memoir

[Terry OToole]

"Obedient Unto Death" A memoir from a highly decorated Obersharfuhrer , a member of Totenkopf "Werner Kindler" ,published by Pen& sword

[Woolgar]

Thanks Terry

Nick

[Herr Lyppe]

I've got this on backorder but I deliberated over it for awhile. I think that the blurb turned me off because it just covered too much (ie Malmedy) and I thought the photo on the cover, which looks like reenactors, gives the impression of a novel rather than a memoir.
It'll certainly be interesting if it offers everything that it claims to.

[SSamir]

Thanks for the tip, Terry!

[Josh Cowell]

Thank you Terry!

[Terry OToole]

just finished this , the original blurb said he served in "totenkopf" it was in fact "leibstandarte". Although its tagged as a memoir this is really an account of battle actions ,using records, letters from other ss participants and of course some input by Kindler himself. There are no personal details of Kindler ,just accounts of the different actions on both fronts (mostly Russian) ,lists of personnel,and their awards ,a "Homage" to Pieper who he obviously admired ,and a run down of equipment used .Strangely sometimes this book reads like the "Leibstandarte" never really seemed to have ever lost a battle ! successes are talked up ,reverses are played right down! As a memoir this is poor ,but as a record (albeit it a partisan one) the battle accounts are interesting especially to anyone interested in the history of the Leibstandarte

[SSamir]

just finished this , the original blurb said he served in "totenkopf" it was in fact "leibstandarte". Although its tagged as a memoir this is really an account of battle actions ,using records, letters from other ss participants and of course some input by Kindler himself. There are no personal details of Kindler ,just accounts of the different actions on both fronts (mostly Russian) ,lists of personnel,and their awards ,a "Homage" to Pieper who he obviously admired ,and a run down of equipment used .Strangely sometimes this book reads like the "Leibstandarte" never really seemed to have ever lost a battle ! successes are talked up ,reverses are played right down! As a memoir this is poor ,but as a record (albeit it a partisan one) the battle accounts are interesting especially to anyone interested in the history of the Leibstandarte

Strange. On Amazon it says: "This title has not yet been released". Where did u get your copy from?

Regards
Samir

[Herr Lyppe]

My copy arrived this morning from Book Depository.

[Terry OToole]

Strange. On Amazon it says: "This title has not yet been released". Where did u get your copy from?

Regards
Samir

straight from the publishers pen &sword

[stonemint]

"Between 1941 and 1944 Waffen-SS Oberscharführer (Sergeant) Werner Kindler took part in 84 days of close combat, qualifying him for the Close Combat Clasp in Gold, the Third Reich’s highest decoration for a frontline soldier. He was also awarded the German Cross in Gold, the Iron Cross First and Second Class and the Wound Badge in Gold.

Drafted into the SS-Totenkopf in 1939, he served with a motorized unit in Poland, and in May 1941 was selected for the Leibstandarte-SS Adolf Hitler, with which he fought in the invasion of the Soviet Union. His unit converted to a Panzer Grenadier formation in 1942, and Kindler went on to fight at Kharkov and Kursk on the Eastern Front, and later in Belgium and France in 1944, where he was present at the infamous Malmedy massacre. At the end of the war, he was the last man of the Leibstandarte-SS to surrender to the Americans. This is one of the most dramatic first-hand accounts to come out of the Second World War."

[MarcRikmenspoel]

The book is obviously available in the UK. The copies for North America are probably on a boat making their way across the Atlantic for the June distribution promised by Amazon.

The Amazon blurb mentions that Kindler first became known when Patrick Agte interviewed him for Agte's Peiper book. This new book is probably assembled by Agte and based around Kindler's contributions for the Peiper volume, with additional material added about his career before and after serving in LAH.

If indeed Agte is the compiler of this new volume, it would explain why it is presented as though LAH never lost a battle. That is Agte's style, as seen in his previous works.

[Mokihana]

Forthcoming SS memoir.

This book was compiled on the advice of Thomas Broadfoot of Broadfoot Publishing Company. Major Keith Bonn of the U.S. Military Academy gives a forward to the book.

Bonn writes in his introduction: "For the contemporary reader, this perspective will give the story contained in Feuer even more meaning."

The book "Feuer" by Werner Adamczyk as an opinion is outstanding, having read "Obedient Unto Death" by Werner Kindler it was a major disappointment, for a new book which took a few years to research it is a let down in terms of a memoir.

On page 12 for example, the author jumps from the Stalin Line to Kiev, then to Uman and Cherson on the Black Sea in a dozen lines (two paragraphs), no account is given of the author's view of the terrain in such a vast distance covered.

If reader's desire a personal story then "Feuer" fits the bill above and beyond expectation, certainly Kindler provides unit action accounts, but in terms of empathising with the author's experiences, it by way of viewpoint lacks on what could have been an excellent account.

[Terry OToole]

This book was compiled on the advice of Thomas Broadfoot of Broadfoot Publishing Company. Major Keith Bonn of the U.S. Military Academy gives a forward to the book.

Bonn writes in his introduction: "For the contemporary reader, this perspective will give the story contained in Feuer even more meaning."

The book "Feuer" by Werner Adamczyk as an opinion is outstanding, having read "Obedient Unto Death" by Werner Kindler it was a major disappointment, for a new book which took a few years to research it is a let down in terms of a memoir.

On page 12 for example, the author jumps from the Stalin Line to Kiev, then to Uman and Cherson on the Black Sea in a dozen lines (two paragraphs), no account is given of the author's view of the terrain in such a vast distance covered.

If reader's desire a personal story then "Feuer" fits the bill above and beyond expectation, certainly Kindler provides unit action accounts, but in terms of empathising with the author's experiences, it by way of viewpoint lacks on what could have been an excellent account.

agreed and "feuer" is indeed a superb memoir

[Josh Cowell]

This book was compiled on the advice of Thomas Broadfoot of Broadfoot Publishing Company. Major Keith Bonn of the U.S. Military Academy gives a forward to the book.

Bonn writes in his introduction: "For the contemporary reader, this perspective will give the story contained in Feuer even more meaning."

The book "Feuer" by Werner Adamczyk as an opinion is outstanding, having read "Obedient Unto Death" by Werner Kindler it was a major disappointment, for a new book which took a few years to research it is a let down in terms of a memoir.

On page 12 for example, the author jumps from the Stalin Line to Kiev, then to Uman and Cherson on the Black Sea in a dozen lines (two paragraphs), no account is given of the author's view of the terrain in such a vast distance covered.

If reader's desire a personal story then "Feuer" fits the bill above and beyond expectation, certainly Kindler provides unit action accounts, but in terms of empathising with the author's experiences, it by way of viewpoint lacks on what could have been an excellent account.

It is interesting because Keith Bonn passed away in 2006.

[SSamir]

Gents, I'm getting confused here, did he, or did he not serve in Totenkopf?

Regards
Samir