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    Rochus Misch dies at 96 !

    I have never believed his account of the braun/hitler suicide...as too many things refute his claim..although he was a devoted Nazi to Der Fuhrer, to the end, as was his secretary, whom also told a heck of a yarn on the same subject....it had to be their best acting they ever did in their lives. Anyway , he is dead now, and soon time will swallow the whole bunch into the vast nothingness from whence they came....I wonder who will end up with his personal effects ??Here is the press story:

    Hitler bodyguard Rochus Misch dies at 96



    BERLIN (AP) — He was Adolf Hitler's devoted bodyguard for most of World War II and the last remaining witness to the Nazi leader's final hours in his Berlin bunker. To the very end, SS Staff Sgt. Rochus Misch was proud of it all.

    For years, he accompanied Hitler nearly everywhere he went, sticking by the man he affectionately called "boss" until the dictator and his wife, Eva Braun, killed themselves as defeat at the hands of the Allies drew nearer. The loyal SS officer remained in what he called the "coffin of concrete" for days after Hitler's death, finally escaping as Berlin crumbled around him and the Soviets swarmed the city.

    Even in his later years, during a 2005 interview with The Associated Press in which he recounted Hitler's claustrophobic, chaotic final days, Misch still cut the image of an SS man. He had a rigid posture, broad shoulders, neatly combed white hair — and no apologies for his close relationship with the most reviled man of the 20th century.

    "He was no brute. He was no monster. He was no superman," Misch said.

    The 96-year-old Misch died Thursday, one of the last of a generation that bears direct responsibility for German brutality during World War II. In his interview with the AP, he stayed away from the central questions of guilt and responsibility, saying he knew nothing of the murder of 6 million Jews and that Hitler never brought up the Final Solution in his presence.

    "That was never a topic," he said emphatically. "Never."

    In the forward to the English-language version of his book, "The Last Witness" — due for publication in October — he wrote that it was a different "reality" then and he never asked questions during what he considered just his "regular day at work."

    In the AP interview, he appeared to have little empathy for those he did not directly know, and even for some he did.

    Misch was moved nearly to tears when talking about Joseph and Magda Goebbels' decision to kill their six children in the Berlin bunker before committing suicide themselves. But he was also able to guffaw about a family friend, "a real lefty," being thrown into the Sachsenhausen concentration camp outside Berlin and noting upon his release that "the paper shirts (at the camp) were uncomfortable."

    Born July 29, 1917, in the tiny Silesian town of Alt Schalkowitz, in what today is Poland, Misch was orphaned at an early age.

    Against the backdrop of the bloody Russian revolution and the rise of Stalin, combined with the post-World War I popularity of the Communist Party in Germany, Misch said he decided at 20 to join the SS — an organization he saw as a counterweight to the threat from the left.

    He signed up for the Leibstandarte SS Adolf Hitler, a Berlin-based unit that originally was founded as the Fuehrer's personal bodyguard.

    "It was anti-communist, against Stalin — to protect Europe," Misch said, noting that thousands of other Western Europeans served in the Waffen SS. "I signed up in the war against Bolshevism, not for Adolf Hitler."

    But when Hitler's armies invaded Poland on Sept. 1, 1939, Misch found himself in the vanguard when his SS division was attached to a regular army unit for the blitzkrieg attack. As German forces quickly closed in on Warsaw, Misch, who spoke some Polish, was sent with a party to negotiate the surrender of a fortress and was told by the troops inside that they needed time to think about the offer.

    "As we were walking away they opened fire," Misch said at his home in Berlin. "A bullet came through here and right out, two centimeters from my heart."

    After his evacuation to Germany and convalescence, he was appointed in May 1940 to serve as one of two SS men who would serve as Hitler's bodyguards and general assistants, doing everything from answering the telephones to greeting dignitaries — and once running flowers to one of the Fuehrer's favorite musicians who had just gotten engaged.

    Misch and SS comrade Johannes Hentschel accompanied Hitler almost everywhere he went, including his Alpine retreat in Berchtesgaden and his forward "Wolf's Lair" headquarters. He lived between Hitler's apartments in the New Reich Chancellery and the home in a working-class Berlin neighborhood that he kept until his death.

    "He was a wonderful boss," Misch said. "I lived with him for five years. We were the closest people who worked with him ... we were always there. Hitler was never without us day and night."

    In the last eight to 10 days of Hitler's life, Misch followed him to live underground, protected by the so-called Fuehrerbunker's heavily reinforced concrete ceilings and walls.

    "Hentschel ran the lights, air and water and I did the telephones — there was nobody else," he said. "When someone would come downstairs we couldn't even offer them a place to sit. It was far too small — little cells of 10 or 12 square meters. It was no bunker to live in. It was an air-raid bunker."

    After the Soviet assault began, Misch remembered generals and Nazi brass coming and going as they tried desperately to cobble together a defense of the capital with the ragtag remains of the German military.

    He remembered that on April 22, two days before two Soviet armies completed their encirclement of the city, Hitler said, "That's it. The war is lost. Everybody can go."

    "Everyone except those who still had jobs to do like us — we had to stay," Misch said. "The lights, water, telephone ... those had to be kept going, but everybody else was allowed to go and almost all were gone immediately."

    But that same day, Hitler clung to hope given by what turned out to be a false report that the Western Allies had called upon Germany to hold Berlin for two more weeks against the Soviets so that they could battle communism together.

    "He still believed in a union between West and East," Misch said. "Hitler liked England — except for (then-Prime Minister Winston) Churchill — and didn't think that a people like the English would bind themselves with the communists to crush Germany."

    On April 28, Misch saw the familiar figures of Propaganda Minister Joseph Goebbels and Hitler confidant Martin Bormann enter the bunker with a man he had never seen before.

    "I asked who it was, and they said that's the civil magistrate who has come to perform Hitler's marriage," Misch said.

    That night, Hitler and longtime mistress Eva Braun were married in a short ceremony in which they both pledged they were of pure Aryan descent before taking their vows and signing a registry book.

    Two days later, Misch saw Goebbels and Bormann again, this time talking with Hitler and his adjutant, SS Maj. Otto Guensche, in the bunker's corridor outside the telephone operator's room.

    "I saw him go into his room ... and someone, Guensche, said that he shouldn't be disturbed. And that meant 'Now it's happening,'" Misch said. "We all knew that it was happening. He said he wasn't going to leave Berlin, he would stay here."

    "We heard no shot, we heard nothing, but one of those who was in the hallway, I don't remember if it was Guensche or Bormann, said 'Linge, Linge, I think it's done,'" Misch said, referring to Hitler's valet Heinz Linge.

    "Then everything was really quiet, everything was still ... who opened the door I don't remember, Guensche or Linge. They opened the door, and I naturally looked, and then there was a short pause and the second door was opened... and I saw Hitler lying on the table like so," Misch said, putting his head down on his hands on his living-room table.

    "And Eva lay like so on the sofa with knees up, her head to him. I don't remember now if Hitler sat on the sofa or on a chair next to it." Eva Braun had died of poisoning and Hitler had shot himself.

    The silence and anticipation then gave way to chaos, when Misch ran up to the chancellery to tell his superior the news and then back downstairs, where Hitler's corpse had been put on the floor with a blanket over it.

    "Then they bundled Hitler up and said 'What do we do now?'" Misch said. "As they took Hitler out ... they walked by me about three or four meters away, I saw his shoes sticking outside the sack."

    After the bodies were carried outside, an SS guard ran down the stairs and tried to get Misch to join the spectacle outside as the two were covered in gasoline and set alight.

    "He said 'The boss is being burned. Come on out,'" Misch recalled. But instead Misch hastily retreated deeper into the bunker to talk with comrade Hentschel.

    "I said 'Do you think we're going to be killed?' and he said 'Why do you think that?'" Misch said. "I said 'I saw the Gestapo upstairs in the ... chancellery and it could be that they'll want to kill us as witnesses.'"

    But Misch stuck to his post — taking and directing telephone calls with Goebbels as his new boss until May 2, when he was given permission to flee.

    "Everybody was upstairs in the ... chancellery, there were things to eat and drink there, downstairs in the bunker there was nothing. It was a coffin of concrete," he said. "Then Goebbels finally came down and said, 'You have a chance to live. You don't have to stay here and die.'"

    Misch grabbed the rucksack he had packed and fled with a few others into the rubble of Berlin. Working his way through cellars and subways, Misch bumped into a large group of civilians seeking shelter in one tunnel.

    "Two were playing music," he said, remembering how incongruous the scene seemed to him. "I came out of the death bunker of concrete, and here were two people playing music on guitar."

    Misch later heard German voices above through an air ventilation shaft and climbed up to try his luck. But the voices came from about 300 soldiers who had been taken prisoner, and the Soviet guards grabbed him as well.

    Following the German surrender May 7, Misch was taken to the Soviet Union, where he spent the next nine years in prisoner of war camps before being allowed to return to Berlin in 1954. He reunited with his wife Gerda, whom he had married in 1942 and who died in 1997, and opened up a shop.

    In 2005, Sitting at his table next to a pile of mail from "fans" to whom he sent autographed photographs of himself in full SS uniform outside the Wolf's Lair, he leafed through his well-thumbed photo album remembering his days with the most infamous people in recent history.

    "Here is Hitler — my boss — Eva, a friend of Eva ...," he said. "Very normal. Not like what is written."

    He turned the page to photos of Braun in the idyllic setting of the Berghof, Hitler's Bavarian mountain residence, and lit up as he remembered a moment from those days.

    "This small black dog comes running and gets under the fence, and Hitler said, 'My God, what is this? Racial mixing?'"

    Associated Press
    Last edited by juoneen; 09-06-2013, 04:04 PM.

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    it was on the bbc night , along with the obligatory Auschwitz survivor stating that he must have known everything about the camps !(how would she know !" also was chucked in his estranged daughters claim that his wife (her mother )was jewish ! this is a claim always refuted by Misch and as well as being hard to believe ,seems to have been a way of getting at him after a big fall out ! the bbc stated her revelation as fact ? Is there any way as historians of studying facts only, with this continueing and blatant blurring and outright corruption of the reality ?

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      #3
      Originally posted by juoneen View Post
      as was his secretary, whom also told a heck of a yarn on the same subject....it had to be their best acting they ever did in their lives. Anyway , he is dead now, and soon time will swallow the whole bunch into the vast nothingness from whence they came....I
      might just be me but that isn't exactly a nice way to talk about a person who is now deceased and i find your words immoral

      @Terry i must admit that the news has to always bend the truth just so they can get a higher rating

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        #4
        Time

        Time to cash in ...
        How long before the first signed photo hits E-bay. ?

        And the colour portrait sticker album .....

        "TR and Non-Nazi, Nazi-signatures 1933 -1945"
        Last edited by Gary Jucha; 09-07-2013, 05:14 AM.

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          #5
          Originally Posted by juoneen
          "soon time will swallow the whole bunch into the vast nothingness from whence they came...."
          You know juoneen time will swallow each and everybody you and me as well as Presidents and Kings, Dictators and everybody else who made a short appearance on this planet into the vast nothingness. In 20.000 years what is a periferic period measured on the existance of that planet nothing will be remembered.
          But like beufighter said " that isn't exactly a nice way to talk about a person who is now deceased ". And i agree with him 100%.
          skalp

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            #6
            One of the soul remaining witness to history,now every time they make a documentary on Hitlers Bunker they will have to find someone else to interview.

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              #7
              Well I guess people are entitled to there opinions but I wonder out of all the posts that have been put up here how many have actually met Rochus Misch and spoke to him ?????? It is very easy for people to pass comment now especially when the man is dead .
              Well I had the pleasure to meet this man in person at his home and spend time with him , when he wrote his book in 2008 it was well received by most people who were interested in the subject . I have no doubt that he may have made mistakes after all it was nearly 70 years after the event , at the end of the day we will all be judged but not by men !
              Rest in peace Rochus .

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                #8
                Originally posted by Schnellmeyer View Post
                Well I guess people are entitled to there opinions but I wonder out of all the posts that have been put up here how many have actually met Rochus Misch and spoke to him ?????? It is very easy for people to pass comment now especially when the man is dead .
                Well I had the pleasure to meet this man in person at his home and spend time with him , when he wrote his book in 2008 it was well received by most people who were interested in the subject . I have no doubt that he may have made mistakes after all it was nearly 70 years after the event , at the end of the day we will all be judged but not by men !
                Rest in peace Rochus .
                I had the privellige of talking to him twice over the phone. After I had sent him a photo f myself and personal info. He was a very well mannered and generous with his time to a stranger. A gentleman. May he rest in peace.

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                  #9
                  I am curious at any time if Misch spoke apologetically for the role he played in history?......Albert Speer spoke of the need for building a world, that would not allow catastrophes like WW2 to ever happen again.....Did Misch ever speak in such terms?

                  Misch had to have known about the death camps.....He was in amongst Germany's high command......Yet, like so many up and coming German officers, he likely had ambitions of seeing how far he could go in Hitler's National Socialist regime.....IF not, why did he not try and stop Hitler?.....He certainly would've had his opportunities......

                  I think the ones who should be praised are the von Stauffenbergs, Olbrichts, von Treskows, and the like.....Not so sure about Misch.....Gentleman or not....Bodes

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                    #10
                    R.i.p.

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                      #11
                      Gentlemen , why is it when a SS veteran dies do people always ask the same question" he must have known about the death camps " .
                      Did George Bush speak apologetically when no WMD were found in Iraq ?
                      And Rochus was not a " up and coming German officer " , he held a junior Nco rank all through the war .
                      There is no doubt that Von Stauffenberg and all the others who stood up to Hitler and his bunch were brave men and should never be forgotten for what they did .
                      But one junior Nco in the Waffen SS cannot be held accountable for what Hitler did , I just hope this topic does not turn into a rant about Rochus Misch , at the end of the day he was a soldier doing his duty , sadly serving a monster .
                      Let the man rest in peace .

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                        #12
                        The

                        The "SS" were the military wing of the Nazi party.
                        As sworn "party members" to death, ALL who took the oath, bare the blame.

                        No "If's" ... "But's" .... "Maybe's" ....

                        If you were SS, you were fully indoctrinated and willingly committed to the Nazi ideal, and bare direct or indirect guilt to the greatest crime in "human" history.

                        No pussyfooting get-out clauses or excuses ....

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Schnellmeyer View Post
                          I just hope this topic does not turn into a rant about Rochus Misch , at the end of the day he was a soldier doing his duty , sadly serving a monster .
                          ...."He (Hitler) was no brute. He was no monster. He was no superman", "...very normal. Not like what is written", and "He was a wonderful boss"........Rochus Misch

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                            #14
                            and

                            And a vegetarian/ animal lover, .... but managed to wipe out half of Europe in 6 years ...


                            Originally posted by bodes View Post
                            ...."He (Hitler) was no brute. He was no monster. He was no superman", "...very normal. Not like what is written", and "He was a wonderful boss"........Rochus Misch

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Gary Jucha View Post
                              The "SS" were the military wing of the Nazi party.
                              As sworn "party members" to death, ALL who took the oath, bare the blame.

                              No "If's" ... "But's" .... "Maybe's" ....

                              If you were SS, you were fully indoctrinated and willingly committed to the Nazi ideal, and bare direct or indirect guilt to the greatest crime in "human" history.

                              No pussyfooting get-out clauses or excuses ....
                              The man was born in a different place and time. The National Socialist principle is a political principle, whether he joined the military wing of the party or the party itself he is merely part of the larger entity. He cannot be to blame other than to be part of the party and of the SS. This alone is not enough to level guilt on any one individual. Of course modern Europe is now total bliss of comprised of peace and love under a multi-culture platform where the government randomly kills people under the national health care system rather than waste ammo. Indoctrination runs rampant at such high levels now that the 3rd Reich looks reasonable in comparison, not sure what your looking at but its not at the newspapers. This is why we study history, it allows the ability to allow one to recognize a repeat or parallel, we kill people every day because we don't like them or cant afford them and that is modern politics.

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