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    #1

    Book about einsatzgruppen

    Hello,

    I'm searching for a good book about the einsatzgruppen and sonderkommando's, operating behind the lines.
    Especially for some history, background, photo's,.....

    I saw one for sale on amazon(Masters of Death: The SS-Einsatzgruppen and the Invention of the Holocaust by Richard Rhodes). Someone have read this?

    Are there some other good books on this topic?

    Thanks,

    Nico
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    Nico,

    Although not soley about the einsatzgruppen, Daniel Goldhagen's "Hitler's Willing Executioners" does go into pretty good depth about them. There is much controversy about Goldhagen's book, but if you put that aside and use it as a source for the info you need, it might be worth it, especialliy if you can find a used copy for a few bucks. It is not easy reading though. He basically took his PhD thesis and published it. So, it reads like a PhD thesis

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      #3
      Thanks for the fast reply.

      Can you tell smething more about that controversy?

      Thanks,

      Nico

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        #4
        another good one is police battalion 101. read at university as part of my reading list. interesting to note the way the two members who did not participate in the shootings were treated

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          #5
          Nico,

          If I remember correctly, Goldhagen was accused of "revisionist history" and coming to conclusions that were not really supported by the evidence. It didn't help his arguements that he is also Jewish. So, I think mostly the controversy was about his supposed failure to remain objective...you know..."I wouldn't have seen it, if I hadn't believed it." I'm not smart enough to know if he is guilty as accused. But I did read his book and enjoyed it for the historical facts that he presents. I then took with a grain of salt his conclusions.

          Besides that controversy, he does tell the story of the einsatzgruppen in decent detail.


          Good luck with your search.

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            #6
            I've read Master's of Death. It is not a scholarly work. Nor does it flow well. It does have some insight into Himmler. It does not go into the organization. It reads much like newspaper accounts.
            Here is a link (with more links in the thread) that goes into more detail about the Browning/Goldhagen debate.

            http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...ight=goldhagen

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              #7
              Nico, one more thought. A few months ago an ex-student of mine came back to school to see me and say hello. I was his science teacher, but he knew I was a WWII buff. He dropped off a dozen of his used paperbacks that were required reading in his major and one of them was the book that I think Polynike mentioned. It is called "Ordinary Men: Reserve Police Battalion 101 and the Final Solution in Poland" by Christopher Browning. Unfortunately I can't comment about it because I haven't read it yet and forgot that I even had it until I read this thread. But it might be something to check out.

              Another VERY interesting note is that in the edition I have of "Ordinary Men," Browning includes a 30 page Afterward in which he basically refutes many of the conclusions Goldhagen made in "Hitler's Willing Executioners." As I flip through it now, it looks like there is no love loss between these 2 authors.
              Last edited by bigschuss; 02-07-2007, 09:22 PM.

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                #8
                Thanks guys for the interesting replies.

                I think I will order "ordinary men" and "masters of death".
                If any other members know other good books, please post your comments


                Best,

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                  #9
                  Well I am of point as usual, but "THe Cruel Hunter's" by French McClean is pretty good reading. You said Sonderkommando and I thought of Old Oskar.

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                    #10
                    An individual volume of the "Green" series of trials books covers the Einsatzgruppen trials. Essential for me as is Krausnick's study of EG "A." French MacLean also did a good on the individual officers.

                    Mark Yerger

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                      #11
                      Thanks for the info.

                      Mark, any idea where to pick up this book?

                      Best,

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                        #12
                        try www.abebooks.com

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                          Thanks

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                            #14
                            For the moment, I'm reading "Masters of Death: The SS-Einsatzgruppen and the Invention of the Holocaust by Richard Rhodes".

                            IMHO, it gives a good summarize of some of the most gruesome killings of the different einsatzgruppen and einsatzkommando's, together with some background information.
                            As a first book on this subject, it seems really good.

                            There are also some pic in it, from einsatzgruppen leaders and members, together with pics of the shootings.

                            I must say, when seeing those pics of dead woman and children, it takes me right up to my throat. Just terrible, to see women and children being shot.

                            Especially those children.
                            I myself have a daughter of 3.
                            Many of those executioners did have children of their own.
                            You must really be a terrible, sick, "humanbeing" to commit such attrocities.
                            ....

                            I can recommend this book to all who want to know something more about this terrible part of WWII history.

                            Best,

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                              Another Book

                              Hello, I remember seeing this book a long time ago. It is still available. The title is: THE GOOD OLD DAYS" The Holocaust as Seen By Its Perpetrators and Bystanders
                              Klee, Ernst, Willi Dressen, and Volker Riess (Editors)
                              Hope this helps, DJB

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