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    Famous Utah Beach wall gone to US

    Hi
    In July 2011, the National World War II Museum in New Orleans, US, took receipt of three sections of the Atlantic Wall
    The huge chunks - complete with pockmarks from bullets and artillery rounds fired by incoming Allied troops - were donated by the Utah Beach Museum in Normandy.

    some of this wall had fallen over the last few years but was it not better to of left it in situ ??? since building the new part of the museum for the B26 Marauder they also knocked down the German bunker there.


    here is part of the wall last year before removal

    Robert
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    The wall three sections gone, and on desplay in National World War II Museum in New Orleans
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      #3
      Thank you for the pics and info.

      In general I agree with your opinion of preserving historical objects and keep them "alive" where there are originally located.

      Here we are witneses of an intelligent compromise:

      People in the US who have not the possibility to see the historical place in person are at least able to see an interesting part of it at home.

      There is too much left to be kept in perfect preserved shape regarding that historical and military event anyway.

      Who should be able to pay for preserving all of it?

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        #4
        They should leave it where it is, like all historic monuments!

        Next we will be shipping Hadrians wall to Rome!

        Nick

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          #5
          In this case it seems like the walls long term survival 'in situ' was compromised. Plus they have so many things like that in Normandy, that it isnt such a big deal to remove it...

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            #6
            Looks like in 20 years the bank would have collapsed covering the concrete anyway. While I never like seeing items "taken" from battle sites, I'm sure local authorities would have "removed" these pieces sooner or later as they would have been deemed a safety hazard. Then where would they be?

            I guess better to preserve them in a museum somewhere as to be lost forever.

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              #7
              Sorry Gents
              Don't agree. The ocean and beach line has a habit of covering things up then spitting them out again.
              Should of been left there, now its just lumps of concrete in a museum.
              With respect for the historical significance of Utah Beach, there's mg bunkers etc on the beach in my hometown.
              Things been covered or moving around up and down the coast line for at least 30yrs!

              Regards
              Eric
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                Originally posted by Thorsten B. View Post
                Thank you for the pics and info.

                In general I agree with your opinion of preserving historical objects and keep them "alive" where there are originally located.

                Here we are witneses of an intelligent compromise:

                People in the US who have not the possibility to see the historical place in person are at least able to see an interesting part of it at home.

                There is too much left to be kept in perfect preserved shape regarding that historical and military event anyway.

                Who should be able to pay for preserving all of it?

                Well said

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                  #9
                  It's not half as bad as cutting a intact uboat into 3 section's frigging dickhe^ds like they have here in the uk
                  wayne

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                    #10
                    thatswar1944 i couldnt agree more with you i saw that video on youtube not ot recentally and was mad! you dont cut up a uboat!

                    McCallion

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                      #11
                      Its my biggest mistake not going to see it in 1 piece...they went crazy over it when it was raised from the seabed then after a yr or so put it up for sale and some twerps bought it and that was that as they say...
                      wayne
                      ps sorry for hijacking this thread

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                        #12
                        http://www.u-boatstory.co.uk/ heres the link she's in 4 sections not 3

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                          Wayne
                          I wont go to the link I,d bust out in tears mate.
                          Sign of the times chum. I can image there is picnic tables where the grown ups can eat chip butties while the kids play safely all over it.
                          Same thing in the IWM they cut a large chunk out of their King Tiger so the morons can gawk inside or gawk outside at a pointless chunk of the Berlin Wall next to a trash can and a sign saying keep off the grass or the continuing 'clean up' of Verdun turning it into a US style battlefield 'Park'....etc. Educational tours full of snotty kids having a day out. Set up like Military Zoos not museums.
                          If people want to see a Lion or a Giraffe get their lazy arses on a plane and go to Africa.
                          Now we have this piece of concrete from Utah probably set up so people can go and 'feel the bullet holes' then stop for a pizza on the way home.

                          Eric

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                            #14
                            I think the wall doubtlessly should have been left where it was.
                            You can't export history, it is now like a fish out of water - Hope its on high ground at least, or it won't be any safer in New Orleans.

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