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    Bismarck sunk after Germans tried to surrender, reveals sailor.

    Bismarck sunk even after Germans tried to surrender, reveals sailor

    Irish Sun
    Friday 27th May, 2011
    (ANI)
    A British sailor, who was left tormented by the "sinking of the Bismarck",
    is said to have revealed to his son that the ship was sunk even after the
    Germans tried to surrender.

    The German battleship, which was one of the most famous warships of the
    Second World War, had a few days earlier sunk the Royal Navy's pride of the
    fleet, HMS Hood, and all but three of its 1,418 crew.

    Then Prime Minister Winston Churchill wanted to avenge the Hood, and ordered
    Royal Navy officers, who had been made aware of the attempts of the Germans
    to surrender, to "sink the Bismarck".

    In two hours the battleship, with 2,200 onboard, was a helpless wreck of
    twisted metal, raging fires and dead and dying crew, and was finished off by
    torpedoes, slipping under the Atlantic with all but 200 of those aboard.

    It was a huge triumph for the Royal Navy, but now the son of one of the
    British sailors who saw Bismarck's end 70 years ago has come forward to
    claim that the battle might have ended differently had the German signals
    been heeded.

    Tommy Byers, a sailor on the British battleship Rodney, maintained until he
    died that the ship hoisted a black flag - the naval sign calling for parley.

    He and a second seaman also saw a Morse code flash, which they interpreted
    as surrender, along with a man waving semaphore flags conveying the same
    message.

    Royal Navy officers were made aware of the signs but they were determined to
    follow Churchill's orders.

    The revelation was unearthed by author Iain Ballantyne for a book about the
    Bismarck, which has been published 70-years after the sinking on May 27,
    1941.

    He came across was an interview Tommy gave to his son Kevin before he died
    in 2004 aged 86.

    "Dad knew what he saw. He felt guilty he didn't do more at the time but he
    wasn't of high enough rank to be heard," the Daily Mail quoted Kevin, 52,
    from Portaferry, County Down, as saying.

    "Something like 2,000 men died and this nagged away at him for the rest of
    his life," he added.

    The second witness was air defence officer on HMS Rodney, Lieutenant Donald
    Campbell, who in his account of the sinking said he saw the Morse signal,
    which was also reported by a sailor on the cruiser HMS Dorsetshire. (ANI)

    #2
    Already being discussed here: http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=518359
    pseudo-expert

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      #3
      It would have been impossible for me to have known that was the case.

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        #4
        Welcome to the club.

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          #5
          No matter I can imagine the conversations between the Germans, the Brits and their allies about it. Or should I say their children? You deserved it, War is War, they were only doing their duty for god and country, oh the humanity!

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            #6
            You guys might have fun with this. Anyone can comment.

            http://www.todayinah.co.uk/index.php...tgew98@aol.com

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              #7
              Acts of mercy and revenge are part of war. After the sinking of the Hood, it is perfectly understandable why the British would want to visit revenge upon the Bismarck.
              Only years later, with age, and upon reflection, do some come to realize that things could have been done with more humanity and compassion. And, with these realizations comes regret, for some. Such is one of the many tragedies of war.

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                #8
                I don't think that the commanding officer of the Bismark would surrender the ship. Is this mentioned in any official action, after-action or survivor reports? When was the Bismark's last shot fired? Did she continue to fire her batteries after the fatal torpedo hit that knocked her steering out? Must challenge all assumptions.

                -Eric

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by SteelhelmJim View Post
                  Acts of mercy and revenge are part of war. After the sinking of the Hood, it is perfectly understandable why the British would want to visit revenge upon the Bismarck.
                  Only years later, with age, and upon reflection, do some come to realize that things could have been done with more humanity and compassion. And, with these realizations comes regret, for some. Such is one of the many tragedies of war.
                  I dunno, the Hood and two other ships activly sought out the Bismarck for destruction. The hood was sunk in self defence. The Bismarck probably had no opportunity to take any surrender it's salvos probably hitting critical areas in the hood causing it to go down fast. While the Bismarck was basically a dead hulk in the water near the end.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by peleliuexplorer View Post
                    Did she continue to fire her batteries after the fatal torpedo hit that knocked her steering out? Must challenge all assumptions.

                    -Eric
                    Of course she did - the torpedo had hit the steering mechanism the day before (26th of may) the battle took place...

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                      #11
                      War at sea is pitiless. Ask the merchant marine.
                      pseudo-expert

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                        #12
                        Also tried to follow link

                        Thanks for posting POB guess I'm another member not allowed access to that page. Interesting subject.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by PlaceOfBayonets View Post

                          In two hours the battleship, with 2,200 onboard, was a helpless wreck of
                          twisted metal, raging fires and dead and dying crew, and was finished off by
                          torpedoes, slipping under the Atlantic with all but 200 of those aboard.
                          I would just like to point out that in fact the Bismark did not slid into the Atlantic taking all but 200 men with her.

                          Many hundreds of German sailors survived the sinking and were left in the water.

                          time and time again this inaccuracy comes up about the fate of the crew of the Bismark.

                          Fact is many of them died lonely, cold deaths in the middle of the atlantic ocean after the British steamed off and left them to their fate

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Gran Sasso View Post
                            Of course she did - the torpedo had hit the steering mechanism the day before (26th of may) the battle took place...
                            Then my guess is that they didn't try to surrender the ship if they were firing at the Brits...

                            -Eric

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                              #15
                              Your guess is illogical.

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