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    #16
    If America was still America and the Government was still an American government this ship's fate would not at all be in question. The Problem is government has sold out and most people are just "citizens".

    I agree dry dock it and prepare it for land mooring. Maybe down the road it could be put back to sea.

    School kids and Scouts alone could save the ship with collection drives but someone in a high place would have to make the call for the cause. And they would rather waste money on social programs. Etc.

    William

    PS, at least there still is USS Texas.

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      #17
      I wrote my Senator, Jim Webb and got an email back citing the recession, fiscal responsibility, blah blah blah. But we can throw money at pot smoking, booze drinking unionized auto workers. I fed up with this country. It is rotten to the core.
      pseudo-expert

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        #18
        That is the Ticket! Repaire the Ship. Have it fire on the banks All problems solved.

        Seriously however my late father used to be a big wig at South West Marine. A ship yard next to Nasco in San Diego. If he was still at that company today he might be able to talk the owners into donating some of their services.

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          #19
          Hi,
          I to think that it is a great shame that historic items can not be preserved just because the government thinks it's not worth it, here in England HMS Victory is safe and well hopefully for ever? we are no way as rich as the USA and we manage it somehow, were would we be without history,I do hope you can save the ship.

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            #20
            Speaking as one who was born in a Nation that has bulldozed, torn down and 'redeveloped' centuries of our history, i feel intense sympathy for you regarding this matter.

            It is far from a unique situation around the world, but direct pressure can achieve results and i would urge you to contact as much of officialdom and as many media outlets as you can individually and collectively.

            Some of the....'reasoning' behind the decision is odd and at best semantics to make a problem exist. The line about dry dock being 'out of context'' is at the very best risible, and borders on contempt.

            If you will excuse a few examples, here are two of the UK's most famous vessels and how they are preserved. It may be worth mentioning how other historic vessels are cared for around the globe.

            HMS Victory was comissioned on the 7th May 1765. Following a national appeal led by the Society for Nautical Research, Victory was put into her present dock on 12th January 1922 and work began to restore her to her 1805 appearance. She remains there today. Dry docking does not diminish her in the slightest.
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              #21
              The second example is HMS Warrior launched in 1860,she was the pride of Queen Victoria’s fleet. Powered by steam and sail, she was the largest, fastest and most powerful ship of her day and Britain’s first iron-hulled, armoured warship.

              She is the responsibility of the 'Warrior Preservation Trust', an independent charity and a body without governmental funding. Below she is pictured as she is today.

              There is hope (although things seem bleak) and i wish you luck. In the overall spending of government the costs of keeping Olympia are surely miniscule?
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                #22
                This article will give everyone some insight as to the undertaking of drydocking a aging warship. Pics of the USS texas in drydock at bottom of web page.
                http://www.usstexasbb35.com/Dry%20Dock%201998-1990.htm

                More info on eventual future plans for the USS Texas

                http://www.battleshiptexas.org/about...s/dryBerth.cfm

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                  #23
                  Very good information on the USS Texas. It seems pretty clear that not just the USS Texas or the USS Olympia, but most if not all of these old warships around the U.S. that have been in the water for many decades are in serious need of conservation efforts and, as with the Texas, the only real solution is permanent dry dock.

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                    #24
                    Here is the IJN Battleship Mikasa http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Yo...sa-08-2010.png

                    We gotta do something here guys, this ship can't go down.

                    Larry

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                      #25
                      Could you imagine the up-roar if they decided to do away with Old Ironsides? There would be such a cry go out across the nation. Or if they decided to no longer maintain the Statue Of Liberty. So sad to see a piece of history go to the scrappers

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by prussian.guard View Post
                        what also amazies me is that america is a young nation with not a great deal of history yet they are letting a significant peice of history rot away with little care.they say we learn from history and here is history facing total distruction.

                        Very well said sir!

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                          #27
                          Agree with most of You. It is a pretty sad state of affairs in the land of the Free.

                          The Problem is not this Administration (its like any other recently). It is with the American public. Remember when we started two useless wars and we were told to just go shopping ? Most young Americans do not even know who we fought in WWII. One in five believe the current President is a Muslim. With ignorance like this and what they teach in the public schools nowadays its no wonder...

                          Most Americans are more interested in American Idol than their own history and have never heard of the USS Olympia or Adm Dewey. Luckily the USS Constitution is in Boston, one City that is aware of its Historical value. As for the USS Olympia being saved, no-one cares.

                          Have been aboard the USS Constitution twice and is well worth the visit if You ever get the chance.

                          Just my 2 bits.
                          Last edited by Tim O'Keefe; 10-02-2010, 01:22 AM.

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                            #28
                            I don't think that is a totally fair assement. The Public does not really decide where funds are spent. If given the choice to spend here or there in a American Idol type setting my guess is the ship would be saved while funds for free loaders would be shelved. It's all in how it's presented.

                            And no one is asking any of us really because they already have our taxes spent on their pet projects and avoidable wars.

                            Hey maybe home make overs would help? Have you read about some of the cases where home make overs were given and after a few years? NOT all of them sucess stories. Some were an outright wasted effort.

                            W.

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                              #29
                              Hear hear! Well said. Good God cannot anyone in the nation organize to manage to find or scrape together 20 mil anymore to save a historical landmark? It's a sad day because those bloody twits up in D.C. surely can manage to misplace, lose and even pork barrel more than that every week, but don't get me started. And as for that crook of a thief scumbag who stole the museum's money, he should be drawn and quartered and hung from the ship's yardarm, just like the good 'ole days.

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                                #30
                                I have visited a few of the old warships, the USS Wisconsin in Newport News, the Yorktown at Patriots Point, the North Carolina in Wilmington. They all need work and the volunteers all decry the fact that there is no money to do what is necessary. The Wisconsin appears to have a several degree list and is rusting, the North Carolina and the Yorktown are both sitting in about 20-25 feet of silt. A great stimulus that will never happen would be for some lawmaker to propose a 100 million dollar subsidy to put towards these ships, primarily of course the Olympia, as she is in the most danger. How many people would that put to work?

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