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**Admiraal** · 06-18-2010, 05:43 AM

Originally posted by Daniel.S View Post

Great
, thats how it supposed to be.

Now lets look at a SS unit..most of them have chickenwirehelmets and of course everyone have at least ek2...how to you look at it?

I don´t know much about the SS, but if i was re-enacting a SS unit, and that specific unit wears allot of chickenwires (if seen on original photos)
then yes, i would wear a chickenwire.

Medals is a separate discussion, as we re-enacters don´t deserve them.
But we must wear some, to have a correct look (not everyone though).

In our group, no one has an EKI. The EKII is the highest but we do got 2-3 nahkampfspange.
Next to that also some sturm abzeichen, KVK´s and verwundeten abzeichen, i´m the only one in our group with a sports badge.
As i am the fastest in our group

I got a sturmabzeichen, verwundeten abzeichen black and sports badge.
They told me i could wear an EKII but i´m not doing that because i think it would be to much.

**Craigob** · 06-21-2010, 09:38 PM

My UNIT. 7. Kompanie Grossdeutschland (east coast)

Some pics from an event last year Michaux State Forest (25 hr on the move tactical)

**-Ray-** · 06-21-2010, 09:45 PM

Thanks for all the respones' to the thread. Nice positive and inspiring images here. Some enactments look very well proffessionally executed.

To provide further input based on some of the post's and conflict. I belive toward the end of the war a few big guys could be realistic if they were perhaps party members press-ganged in the Volksturm. Otherwise, on the same hand most of Europe was starving and the uniformity wavering. A motely crew was somewhat normal, just look at period photographic evidence.

I will try to get some shots from the local chapter here in the FT. Campbell area coming up in July I believe.

**Jollygreenslugg** · 06-22-2010, 12:18 AM

Hi Craigob,

Very nice pics. How did you get the period-correct look of the pics? They look like they were done using film from the era. The slightly muted look works well.

Matt

**Craigob** · 06-22-2010, 11:36 AM

Originally posted by Jollygreenslugg View Post

Hi Craigob,

Very nice pics. How did you get the period-correct look of the pics? They look like they were done using film from the era. The slightly muted look works well.

Matt

Well I didn't take them, the photographer was using a period camera, that's all i know.. I was way back in the formation on foot.

**panzer224** · 06-22-2010, 07:47 PM

Hi all,

our group isn't a very old group but we are organized and try our hardest to look right. We are GR 914 4th kompanie of the 352nd infanterie division (reenacted). we are based out of new england and represent the late war grenadier. I try my hardest to do what I can to look accurate so comments or feedback is welcome.

Website: www.gr914.org

On the whole fat reenactor note:

I am curious what you think is considered a "fat reenactor" I am 16 and am 6'0" football lineman for my high school team and am 270. i don't have much of a gut though. what is that considered?

here are some photos

marching out for Normandy

our unit truck

me waiting for orders

**-Ray-** · 06-22-2010, 10:07 PM

Originally posted by panzer224 View Post

Hi all,

our group isn't a very old group but we are organized and try our hardest to look right. We are GR 914 4th kompanie of the 352nd infanterie division (reenacted). we are based out of new england and represent the late war grenadier. I try my hardest to do what I can to look accurate so comments or feedback is welcome.

Website: www.gr914.org

On the whole fat reenactor note:

I am curious what you think is considered a "fat reenactor" I am 16 and am 6'0" football lineman for my high school team and am 270. i don't have much of a gut though. what is that considered?

here are some photos

marching out for Normandy

our unit truck

me waiting for orders

Your efforts are instilling by preserving tradition and honoring the remberance and sacrifice's of the veterans. My thanks for your support and to those who care.

**m1steelpot** · 06-22-2010, 10:38 PM

Originally posted by panzer224 View Post

Hi all,

our group isn't a very old group but we are organized and try our hardest to look right. We are GR 914 4th kompanie of the 352nd infanterie division (reenacted). we are based out of new england and represent the late war grenadier. I try my hardest to do what I can to look accurate so comments or feedback is welcome.

Website: www.gr914.org

On the whole fat reenactor note:

I am curious what you think is considered a "fat reenactor" I am 16 and am 6'0" football lineman for my high school team and am 270. i don't have much of a gut though. what is that considered?

here are some photos

Well, if you're looking for comments and feedback hopefully I can give you guys a few suggestions.

For starters, I would urge a more uniform look in regards to appearance. Some people wearing Italian Camo trousers (1st photo) along with a guy in a Sumpf smock just looks out of place, especially for the 352nd. Though camouflage was used extensively during the war, it is blown out of proportion in the reenacting hobby, where Feldgrau should be your friend.

The guy 1st in line, (Sumpf Smock) should probably ditch the smock, as well as the fighting knife in his boot. Similarly to the GI overuse of M3 knives tied to the leg, I feel this is a reenactorism.

The guy 2nd from front in the first photo appears to be wearing modern glasses. Reproduction glasses are found easily from Hessen Antique. Getting the lenses replaced costs some Geld, but this is an expensive hobby. The helmet cover he is wearing is also way overdone. His boots also look weird

Is the medic female? If so this isn't really "historically accurate" per se and though there is a spot for everybody who wants to participate in this hobby, they should do impressions that are appropriate for who they are. With all the banter about "preserving the history" that is thrown around, you would think that would be considered. There are plenty of awesome roles that women can appropriately take in this hobby. Nachrichtenhelferinnen and the like. You guys have a Nachrichten trailer according to your website, so why not a radio operator or something? Also, the medics field blouse is barely fitting in any regard.

I am also seeing alot of Tropical items being used in this Normandy scenario. Though it is known that tropical items were used concurrently with the continental gear, having 3 guys in a squad with tropical Y-straps seems a little bit like overkill. By far the leather equipment was far more common, with the tropical stuff being a rarity.

In regards to your specific impression--not looking too bad. I dig the Signals patch. Personally, I would ditch the A-Frame and the shoulderboard slips. I know you have pride for your reenacting unit, but these slips are more of a rarity in combat photos, and IIRC they were not supposed to be worn in combat. Your gamaschen, are they postwar BW? If so replace 'em. I like how you have your gear sitting at an appropriate place on your body, though. Nothing worse than a GI with a cartridge belt bra or the same for a Frontsoldat with the same problem. My one big piece of advice would be to wear your kit in, but at the same time treat it well. This is hard to do and I find it hard to overcome the urge to preserve my kit. But, once it gets grubby and "lived in" it will benefit your impression. But remember, shoddy gear and uniforms can only be masked with grime for a short time. Invest in your kit wisely and buy once, not 5 times.

**panzer224** · 06-23-2010, 09:26 AM

Hello,

Currently some of those items were loaner gear for the ones involved in that event. We are still squaring away people from that event so they can be more correct.

I believe feldgrau is your friend as well. I much perfer my normal uniform over the camoflauge. All of mt uniform items are feldgrau. I also have a M42 greatcoat for winter scenarios.

As for the female reenactor, yes she is female and we have set that situation fixed. she was there for that event to see what it was like so we now have the proper kit for her.

the modern glasses are from a new reenactor as well.

My kit I have worked on hard and tried my bes to keep looking good. The reason I wear the signals patch is because I am part of our signals element in our unit. We have a communications trailer that is very nice. All of my gear that should be leather is leather and i try to keep it looking correct. As for the a-frame I currently only need straps to not use it to hold my other items.

**deiter** · 06-23-2010, 10:16 AM

Good advice M1. Its nice to see some young guys out there getting into the hobby. A few things i would add is that everyone wearing gas canisters and e-tools would add to a very good unit impression. As far as the female is concerned, does she have a proper male haircut? Is she just someones girlfriend that wants to hang out with him more? Most times the opposite sex can be more of problem than an asset to a unit. Keep up the good work Panzer

Dieter

**DennyB** · 06-23-2010, 06:40 PM

You might want to pass along to the guy whose gamaschen are riding up to simply loosen them up, they will drop and stay in the right position.

**Mat Holloway** · 06-24-2010, 04:54 PM

Originally posted by Stickgrenade View Post

Bauer

I would love to join a reenactment group but I have a "snowballs chance in Hell" of getting my wifes approval

It just aint gonna happen!

I enjoy watching you guys at work though

Nick

Tell you r missus where to go!!!

Every bloke deserves a hobby or 2. Even if you do 2 or 3 events a year, with the right group you get a 2nd family and a great social life as well!

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