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    Just got done reading THE GREAT TERROR-A REASSESSMENT by Robert Conquest.
    This is about the Purge In Soviet Russia, under Stalin's rule, from 1930 to 1938.
    I found something in there that I never heard of before. The Russians, sometime in 1939 or 1940, allowed the Germans to have a U-Boat base, called Base North, somewhere outside of Murmansk. I have heard of the BLACK Luftwaffe, which were secret encampments of German fliers and planes training , deep in the Soviet Union, in the 1930's, but I have never heard of a secret U-Boat base anywhere in Russia. I tried to Google it but failed. Can anybody help me, or does anyone know anything about this???
    Tim Alexander
    Last edited by TP Alexander; 03-10-2008, 07:40 PM.

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    suggest you email Gudmundur at Uboat.net and ask him, I've never heard of such a base gummi@uboat.net

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      #3
      PM from sturmtrupp in Moscow, Russia.


      "Germany and russia were friends before ww2. most of luft pilots visited fly schollls near in Lipitsk area. they traind there with soviet instruktors. also many jager korps visites Caucases before war. they also trained there to climb mountains.
      connecting uboats it coul be but i dont know. if you want i will sent you info from old soviet parers about training of german pilots from USSr. many of those pilots found wifes in Eletz and other towns

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        And my reply.


        I know that it was a good deal for both countries militaries. The Germans were prevented by the Versailles Treaty from having an Air Force, so how could they train if they didn't have any planes? And the Russians benefitted from the more advanced experience of the German pilots in forming and advancing the training of their own fledgling Air Force.
        The only bad thing is that as the years went by and Stalin continued his Purge of supposed collaborators and spies, all of the men that had received pilot training and staff training by joint exercises with the Germans were probably executed as spies, traitors, collaborators and Bukharinites and Trotskyites. What xenopobia! Contamination by being around any foreigner! That's a major reason why Russia was initially being beat by the Germans at the beginning of the invasion. Many of the best men had been executed or were in jail for "crimes against the state".
        I'd like to see the papers about the training, but I don't read Russian. I can speak a little bit. I took it for 2 years in high school.
        Tim


        I have also tried to email the UBoat guy to see if he has ever heard any rumor about a 'BASE NORTH', but I doubt it. The Russians probably erased every single trace of any collaboration with the Germans of a UBOAT base and probably destroyed every vestige of any mention of it and probably blew up any installation, on Stalin's orders.

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          #5
          I have a feeling that this scenario did not happen ( blowing up base's ). As you know building a U boat base in no easy thing and Murmansk is primairly an area full of this stuff so I reckon they just renamed the base and its still there today...

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            Originally posted by Napalm View Post
            I have a feeling that this scenario did not happen ( blowing up base's ). As you know building a U boat base in no easy thing and Murmansk is primairly an area full of this stuff so I reckon they just renamed the base and its still there today...
            I don't know and I hate to disagree on such an ethereal possibility of a Sub pen, but since he didn't mind killing somewhere of upwards of 30 Million of his own people, it wouldn't surprise me if he would blow up a Sub base just to avoid a little embarassment.

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              #7
              I saw a bbc doc called ww2 behind closed doors and it had a bit on these bases,they werent u boat base per say but more bases where the russians helped the germans!the germans werent aloud to go on to the base and had to stay on board!il check you tube for it!

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                #8
                Aviaition, tank and chemical warfare schools (all established in the Soviet Union) were the major German-Russian activities in the 1920/30s.

                Mike

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