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    On line Petition for UK members to sign.

    On line petition which might be of interest to Uk collectors of deacts. and to re enactors.
    Our friends at NUMBER 10 intend to ban all Pre-1995 deacts. - perhaps they might comnsider doing something about illegal guns - there would seem to be an easy to access supply of them to the criminal fraternity , without them having to either buy or steal deactivated guns.

    Its is not like there is a shortage of illegal guns - why the hell do the goverment always take the soft option when it comes to being "Tough on Crime" ?

    How many crimes are committed with deactivated guns which have been re activated ?
    Can they show us the evidence ?

    Could this be the end of our hobby?

    Jan 10 and the Government delivers a new body blow to the future of
    Britsh re-enactment as we know it. In a statement that was of no
    suprise to some fo us , Home Secretary Jaqui Smith announced plans to
    "ban" all pre 1995 deactivated weapons under the transparent excuse of
    "reactivation to commit crime" Whilst it is accepted that some weapons
    can be reactivated they often present more of a danger to the user than
    the intended victim.

    What really lies behind this is a cynical manipulation to assuage the
    general public. A hardened critic could suggest vote winning tactics..
    The truth of this matter is, the problem does not lie with deactivated
    weapons, many of which are unsuitble or unfashionable to use for
    criminal purposes.

    The real danger lies with illegal importation of genuine, live firearms
    from Eastern Bloc Countries and other sources. These should be
    targetted and halted, re-enactors are reasonable law abiding citizens.
    The demographic that in the UK seems to be targeted for an affected by
    most legislation these days.

    There are figures to confirm the use of reactivated weapons in crime,
    less then 1% of all gun crime in 2006/07.
    There has been no evidence presented to support the statements of
    reactivated weapons being converted and used in murders. We simply have
    the Government's word for it.

    And if you feel as strongly as we do then write a letter to your MP and
    local councillors telling them how you feel and asking that they
    reconsider the ill conceived proposal. Resources could be better
    directed towards the Police actually tackling real gun crime as opposed
    to criminalising decent citizens due to the actions of a tiny minority.

    Support us - WRITE TO YOUR MP AND MAKE PLAIN YOU DO NOT WANT THIS
    PROPOSAL MAKING LAW.
    DONT LET THIS GOVERMENT KILL OFF ANOTHER BRITISH PAST TIME

    Please sign our online petition.
    We the undersigned petition the Prime Minister to protect the rights of
    responsible re-enactors and collectors of deactivated firearms. As
    reenactors and collectors we find that our rights as responsible
    collectors of deactivated firearms is again being eroded. Re-enactors
    raise many thousands of pounds for veterans charities, and other good
    causes every year. We make sure our events are safe and comply with all
    Health and safety regulations. We are insured and members of organised
    groups and clubs. If re-enactors are banned from having deactivated
    firearms, a whole hobby will be wiped out, many hundred*s of businesses
    that supply uniform, kit, vehicles will close down, Thousands of
    hobbyists, model makers and visitors will no longer have the chance to
    see re-enactments in the open air. This proposed crime bill will
    effectively make criminals out of hundreds of thousands of law abiding
    people in the UK without a thought for their rights, just because of a
    few uneducated individuals wave imitation firearms in the streets.

    http://petitions.pm.gov.uk<WBR>/reenactment/

    #2
    a petition would be pointless.how many times have we been lied to in government manifesto's.this is a publicity stunt to appease the majority and penalise the minority.the only thing you can do and which im going to do is vote out my local mp and let them know we are not happy with what is going on in our once great country.the place is going to rack and ruin.
    yesterday a guy was jailed for 3 years for throwing a concrete block of a bridge and killing a lorry driver.i would have strung him up with a noose.
    i would encourage all uk members to vote out thier local mp's and give a warning to anyone being elected we will not be treated like idiots

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      #3
      Hi,
      Whenever the police are interviewed about this subject the point they always raise is-----if this gun is pointed at you its impossible to tell whether its real or not,
      This argument could therefore apply to anything resembling a gun and made from any material one cares to mention.
      Cheers

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        #4
        I feel for you guys across the big pond! In the states we are having the same problem with the so called "assault weapons", the FBI records show that only 2.5% of all crimes involving firearms are these "evil" guns. Yet they want to ban them so that they can feel good. It's not about "gun control", it's about 'control" period! .50 cal. rifles are the same way, I don't think there has been one crime committed using this kind of firearm, but they want to ban them! and they say stupid stuff like "it can bring down an airliner with one shot" or " a terrorist can shoot someone from over a mile". Can these things happen? Yes, with a lucky shot! (they watch to much Hollywood movies!).
        We in the states watch as your government bans this and bans that, trying to make people safer (so they think or say), and we have a joke saying that soon they will ban table knives and forks, heck they may even go as far as banning spoons!
        But, we also watch closely because we know our government is trying the same thing and that everything that is happening to you, will be coming here as well!

        Sorry for the rant.

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          #5
          I would have sympathy Franco for any policeman who has anything resembling a gun pointed at him , if he fires his action is on the head of the person pointing whatever they have in their hand at him.
          As far as deacts. go - criminals don't have to use them ,there are enough live weapons in their hands as it is !
          How many deacts have been used in Uk crimes ?
          Knives are a much more real threat and constitute a greater problem and so far I don't know of any K-98 bayonets having being used in street crime , nor any K-98's.

          Targeting deacts. is a soft option , at first glance it appears to be "action this day" , in reality it is not , descts don't shoot bullets and live guns do.
          What percentage of crimes involve reactivated guns ?
          can we have an answewr ?
          What percentage of gun crimes involve deact. guns , not replicas , not toys, not airsoft , just deacts , may we have an answer please ?

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            #6
            Hi,
            The point I was making about the policeman was,that banning a gun made of metal wont solve any problems because realistic looking firearms can be made of other materials.
            Cheers

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              #7
              completely ridiculous, again. how many crims are going to lug a de-act mg 42 into a bank for a hold up?. or a k98. none that`s how many.

              it just sums up this absolutely appalling government and its `soundbite` policies. all p*ss and wind, and no substance.

              i hoped things might change when we got rid of the liar blair, but nope, seems not.

              and i`m afraid the petition will do no good at all, it`ll be ignored, because remember , this government knows best.

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                #8
                Franco
                Hi,
                The point I was making about the policeman was,that banning a gun made of metal wont solve any problems because realistic looking firearms can be made of other materials.
                Cheers
                No worries Franco - I think we are both asking the same question in this respect.

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