uh-oh i think this mean the boys scouts are secretly hitler youth!!!!!!!!!
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I think it would depend on the scenario, but frankly, reenactors basically entertain (and educate from time to time). For those that simply do displays and such, they have no combat value whatsoever. For reenactors that actually do fairly realistic tacticals where it's set up much like a combat manouever, they would probably be better off I suppose. However, poor physical condition and the lack of mental preparedness and experience for actual combat would be the main detriments here I would think.
Ultimately, there is a difference between playing army and being in one...Last edited by starshy; 11-13-2007, 06:28 PM.
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I reenacted for about four years, and found it to be a lot of fun. The membership was pretty diverse, including lawyers, cops, university students, active and reserve military, and just about everything in-between. A fair amount of veterans, too. Every once and a while, we'd get a nutcase or two, but they were usually weeded out rather quickly.
A few of the guys in my organization left to join the military, and I think the time they spent reenacting helped to familiarize themselves with some of the principles they later learned in basic training.
As far as it turning into a militia or political front, the group I belonged to was very careful to stay away from any public perception of extremist activity, and any type of racism, anti-semitism, or political nuttiness was not tolerated.
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Originally posted by carlosR View PostMy son and I were talking while working on my car this morning. We got to the subject of those "nutty" reenactors (my take on them). I said hey it's a harmless thing, just a bunch of grown men playing army but kind of crazy. He said wait a minute, think about the Weimar Republic and all the different groups that were training as pistol clubs, veterans groups, etc. The not so crazy thing about them was they were providing disciplined training to bodies of men that eventually enabled the NSDAP to overpower rivals and you know the rest of the story. What if the reenactors are learning discipline, learning to conduct manuvers, learn tactics and developing command structure. Would such a group at the very least be effective in disaster situations or a breakdown in civil order? Not on any grand scale but perhaps like a militia?
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Originally posted by bigschuss View Post
That was great!
I have a colleague who is a Civial War reenactor and I was telling him about our convoy taking an RPG round at the very close of Desert Storm. He responded by telling me a "similar story" about his Civil War battle.
There was a poll last week asking about WAF members who are also veterans. I'd like to know what percent of reenactors are veterans???
I met a WWII German vet on the site once, he was there to look at the sights and remember I suppose. I talked with him and at some point he lectured me something about "you boys don't know how horrible war is and".... I think he related that we made a mockery of it. But he of course mis understands the purpose of it all being that he is emotionally involved in the past and the real war.
I don't go to "play army" but I suppose some guys do. I go to get an insight and catch a glimpse of the history I've read so much about. To "live" it to the extent that one can and I can tell you you do get a glimpse of it. How can you not? You feel the weight of the uniform and helmet. The Same helmet a real WWI Soldier peered out of. You look down the sights of a real Gew98 the same rifle a real soldier fired during the war and when you see a Tommy fall after "shooting" him it is indeed a glimpse. Some of the things I've read about but did not understand was made clear after one event. Things like, how do you lose track of your buddies in an assault. Wel I learned it's very easy and happens in seconds just like I've read about.
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Originally posted by Seigfried View PostAs to the original question - I think that the reason most re-enactment groups have a disclaimer stating that they are non-political etc, is to try and steer away strong minded political types from joining and taking over the group by stealth, and forming them into a paramilitary group.
Informing the general public that "...hey, we're not real Nazis..." is the other big reason.
--Chris
P.S.
Where on the west coast are you guys? I thought that virtually everyone doing WWI was back east?
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Originally posted by bigschuss View Post
That was great!
I have a colleague who is a Civial War reenactor and I was telling him about our convoy taking an RPG round at the very close of Desert Storm. He responded by telling me a "similar story" about his Civil War battle.
There was a poll last week asking about WAF members who are also veterans. I'd like to know what percent of reenactors are veterans???
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