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    Lufwaffe pilot and BF 109 discovered in France

    Hi guys,
    here's what I saw this morning on official french press display.

    Hazebrouck (North of France) 2006 april 4th

    The body of a Luftwaffe pilot has been discovered 6 metres under ground, still in his BF 109 wreck.
    The plane has endured a deep impact and was totally destroyed but part of it has been protected from corrosion by clay. Most of it metal parts are still shining.

    This ME 109 was discovered while the French company Air France was searching for a Dutch R.A.F pilot, Jan Plesman, shot down and crashed in this area in 1944.

    The pilot will have his final resting place in the Andilly (Meurthe et Moselle) German military cemetery, unless he will be identified and family found.

    The most interesting parts of the plane shall be cleaned and conserved.

    The research for the Dutch pilot (son of the founder of the Dutch air company KLM) will continue.


    HAZEBROUCK (Nord), 4 avr 2006 (AFP) - Le corps du pilote d'un avion allemand de la Deuxième Guerre mondiale a été retrouvé mardi à six mètres sous terre, au milieu des pièces de son appareil, près de Hazebrouck (Nord), a constaté un journaliste de l'AFP.
    "L'avion, un Messerschmitt 109, a subi un impact énorme et est totalement disloqué, mais les pièces ont été protégées de la corrosion par l'argile. Ce qui est particulièrement émouvant, c'est que le pilote qui était aux commandes de l'appareil, se trouve au même endroit" et a commencé à être exhumé, a déclaré Yves Le Maner, directeur de La Coupole, Centre d'histoire et de mémoire du Nord-Pas-de-Calais.

    "L'appareil a été réduit en miettes, mais le métal des pièces est encore brillant", a-t-il ajouté.

    Les fouilles, organisées par Air France, visaient à retrouver le corps de Jan Plesman, le fils du fondateur de la compagnie aérienne néerlandaise KLM, abattu dans la région en 1944 alors qu'il pilotait un avion de la Royal Air Force britannique.

    "Une série d'informations dans les archives et des témoignages nous faisaient penser qu'on avait localisé son appareil sous le sol", selon M. Le Maner, qui assure toutefois disposer d'"autres pistes" pour retrouver le pilote néerlandais.

    Le corps du pilote allemand devrait être inhumé au cimetière militaire allemand d'Andilly (Meurthe-et-Moselle), sauf s'il était clairement identifié et que sa famille pouvait être retrouvée, a précisé M. Le Maner. Les pièces les plus intéressantes de l'appareil devraient être nettoyées et conservées.

    #2
    Wow. I hope they manage to find out who he is, not just for his family's sake but for all of us. Were there any pics? Please keep us updated!
    WAF LIFE COACH

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      #3
      Rest in Peace.

      Wow. I hope they manage to find out who he is, not just for his family's sake but for all of us. Were there any pics? Please keep us updated!
      I agree with Gene, our own Goverment's stance on lost aircrew is pretty poor , basically they can't be bothered.

      Better to have a decent burial than be left in an unknown hole in the ground.

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        #4
        I think he' ll have a decent burial anyway, the soldiers that we discover now have more respect than a lot who are, you're right, in infamous holes.
        Sorry but I didn't find yet pictures on the numerous french webnews services, will keep on trying.

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          #5
          I forwarded this link to author and researcher Eric Mombeek. Here is his response:

          I was aware of this find and we were able to identify the pilot: Uffz. Horst Seemann, 9./JG 1, and reported missing on 4.9.1943 in St.Omer-Dunkirk. Glad to know that he will find a right place to rest.

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            #6
            Cool. Now if someone can research this guy we're set!
            WAF LIFE COACH

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              #7
              Tim,
              Thanks for ID of the pilot. Perhaps somewhere in the future a picture of the may be found of him. Intresting story.

              Chet
              Zinc stinks!

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                #8
                I do not recall the link but there is a groupe that does wreak recovery in Belgium - when I get home I can check their site and see if they know anything... THANKS for the information

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                  #9
                  Bf-109

                  Great story and I.D. I wonder if the ground there was soft and thus the condition of the aircraft.

                  Doug

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Tim Calvert
                    I forwarded this link to author and researcher Eric Mombeek. Here is his response:

                    I was aware of this find and we were able to identify the pilot: Uffz. Horst Seemann, 9./JG 1, and reported missing on 4.9.1943 in St.Omer-Dunkirk. Glad to know that he will find a right place to rest.

                    Thanks for the update Tim!

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                      #11
                      Not surprised it didn't take long to ID the pilot. When it comes to LW losses, especially from the jagdwaffe, researchers and enthusiasts in Western Europe have reached an incredible level of knowledge.

                      iirc, i read somewhere that all LW aircraft brought down over the UK are now accounted for. I wonder what the situation's like in Western europe?
                      Collecting German award documents, other paperwork and photos relating to Norway and Finland.

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                        #12
                        Thanks for the update mate. I hope they gona find out ho the pilot is.


                        Regards Henrik

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                          #13
                          Help

                          Pulling up this old thread, with no further news on this Me-109 but as mentioned in the initial post, a request for help on the search to find MIA pilot F/LT J. Plesman and the crash location of Spitfire Mk. IXb serial MK905 and registration VL-P or 3W-P of 322 (Dutch) squadron.

                          Known facts:

                          On September 1st 1944, the squadron was on it's second ground strafing mission for that day in the Calais - Ghent - Aulnoye area in France. Flying a sweep at an altitude of about 3000 ft. flak opened up from some woods and hit F/Lt Plesmans aircraft. It crashed somewhere near St.Omen near a railroad track F/Lt Plesman was not seen bailing out as is missing since then.
                          Also the F/Lt van Eendenburgs Spitfire was hit and crash landed near Lille.

                          Anyone maybe have more information, periode (aerial) photographs of the area North East of St.Omer, photos of the crash site or any usefull knowledge of this aircraft of F/Lt Plesman or the subject then please let me know.
                          I am confident, with all the knowledge here, we should be able to resolve this quest once and for all and hopefully return F/Lt Plesman to his homeland.
                          Our 75th squadron celebration of 322 squadron RNLAF next year wouldn't be complete without him.

                          Thanks in advance.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by deejay View Post
                            Pulling up this old thread, with no further news on this Me-109 but as mentioned in the initial post, a request for help on the search to find MIA pilot F/LT J. Plesman and the crash location of Spitfire Mk. IXb serial MK905 and registration VL-P or 3W-P of 322 (Dutch) squadron.

                            Known facts:

                            On September 1st 1944, the squadron was on it's second ground strafing mission for that day in the Calais - Ghent - Aulnoye area in France. Flying a sweep at an altitude of about 3000 ft. flak opened up from some woods and hit F/Lt Plesmans aircraft. It crashed somewhere near St.Omen near a railroad track F/Lt Plesman was not seen bailing out as is missing since then.
                            Also the F/Lt van Eendenburgs Spitfire was hit and crash landed near Lille.

                            Anyone maybe have more information, periode (aerial) photographs of the area North East of St.Omer, photos of the crash site or any usefull knowledge of this aircraft of F/Lt Plesman or the subject then please let me know.
                            I am confident, with all the knowledge here, we should be able to resolve this quest once and for all and hopefully return F/Lt Plesman to his homeland.
                            Our 75th squadron celebration of 322 squadron RNLAF next year wouldn't be complete without him.

                            Thanks in advance.
                            Good luck, fingers crossed

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