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    Panzer Rgt 25 Veteran Interview PT.1

    Greetings. For 30 years I have compiled interviews with veteran's from all wars and armies, with a focus on Germany. I wanted to test one of these out with you to see what reactions I get. Some will not like what he said about his enemies, but I did want to capture the mindset of how he thought, and I feel it shows up well. Enjoy:


    Interview with Irwin Rohers, ObGefr 7th Panzer div. Oct 1987

    Me: What interested you to join the new panzer arm?

    The black uniforms and the tradition of the old Hussars that these men carried on impressed me. In Germany in the 30’s work was plentiful and there were good paying jobs to choose from. In 1935, the Wehrmacht was reformed and it was required that all young men give 2 years’ service to the nation. I did service with the RAD, working to clean the beaches in north Germany. In 1939 I volunteered for the panzer arm as I wanted to further serve my nation, whom I was proud of. I was sent to the 2nd light division which later became the 7th panzer div. I was in the 25th Panzer Regiment after Poland, under command of Colonel Karl Rothenburg. I was trained on mk II, pz 38-T, mk III, mk IV, and lastly a long barrel mk IV with side shields.

    Me: what was it like going to war?

    Going to war is never easy, and especially for a nation that lost so much from the First World War. We had a bad feeling that something would break loose. Hitler made it clear to everyone that the land that was taken due to Versailles, should be returned to the Reich. To this end, he was committed, as was the people. We heard stories of the plights of German’s who were made minorities in their former land. Because they were now minorities, they were at the mercy of their new leaders. Because Poland tried to take addition land after the first war, there was still bad feelings between the two peoples.
    We have always been at odds with them, going back a few hundred years. Most people do not know that after ww1 Poland attacked Germany, trying to claim even more land than what the allies awarded them. Our Freikorps units stopped the Poles and Communists, who were both trying to dismantle the new Weimar Republic. Germany tried to work out deals with Poland regarding the corridor, but because of English meddling, all the offers were refused. In 1938 and 1939, we followed reports of border incursions by Polish citizens, some of them resulted in violence and even murders on German citizens.
    When we declared war, it was a sad day, but was not a surprise. What came as a surprise was the allied declaration against us, but not against the Russians who attacked Poland days later.

    Me: Did you see action in Poland?

    Yes, my training as a gunner was complete in 1939, and we were sent into Poland at the beginning of hostilities. Right away, we faced superior Polish forces, as Poland had been preparing for war for months. We took heavy causalities as we were fresh, green troops, but we prevailed largely with the help of our Luftwaffe. They were able to knock out artillery positions that were causing us many problems. I saw our first prisoners and I was amazed at how relaxed we were with them, a general was allowed to ride his horse with his men to the rear of our lines, it did not even appear they were beaten or prisoners, it looked like they were having a victory parade.
    At this point we also started to hear rumors that German civilian’s had been killed by soldiers, wounded soldiers had been mutilated, and LW crews were killed after surrendering, so we were instructed to capture and interrogate all prisoners to find out more information regarding these claims.
    At the 2-week point of the war, we came upon a Polish tank rgt, who had better tanks than we did. Our training seemed to be better, and since we could communicate with each other, we were able to route them, with the help of Stuka’s. I remember going out and looking at the knocked tanks and seeing how much thicker their armor was as opposed to the mk I, II and 38t.

    Me: What was your impression of the Polish soldier?

    It is hard to explain, our two countries had not been on good terms as the Poles felt we owed them for being their former rulers, and we felt they were arrogant and oppressive. My first thoughts were that I did not care for them, as that is just what life was like in Europe, we were one people’s but created so many ways to divide us and create hatred. The first prisoners I saw looked poor and dirty. They did have lots of food, which we soon learned to trade with them for. Our supply columns were sometimes a day behind so we would be hungry. One soldier who spoke broken German traded me some sausages and bread for some writing paper. He said he met a very pretty girl in Warsaw and he wanted to write to her. We sat down and rested with this group of prisoners and we got along great. One soldier joked that they were headed to Berlin but not in the way they thought. We played skat with them until it was time to leave.
    The Polish soldier was mostly drafted and not wanting to stay in the fight. We came upon many groups who had deserted and were just trying to return home. One sad incident was when a lorry drove into our colum, we assumed it was ours or full of prisoners, a sgt got out, yelled some orders, then more soldiers jumped down and stated shooting at us. We were unprepared and took causalities, but our response was total, we shot down all of them once we recovered.

    Me: What were the Polish people like?

    The people surprised me, from the very first day, we encountered people who came out to cheer us, and welcome us as liberators. These were largely people who were German, so that was expected. As we moved deeper into the country, even Poles would come out to see what we were like; they would bring food and water. Many wanted to trade with us cigarettes and chocolate for eggs, meat, and milk. The Polish army confiscated large numbers of animals and many farmers asked us if we could help return their animals if we found them. The rear security men would later help to reunite people with lost possessions. Not all was well though, there were incidences where some civilians attacked our soldiers and when captured they were tried and executed for crimes against the Wehrmacht.
    One sad incident like this was when our recon unit was entering a small town, and came under fire from a man hiding in a tree, but he was not prepared for the mg34 that responded to him. When they entered the small town, the mayor demanded to know why he was killed and not taken prisoner. Our commander ordered flyers to be made that warned the people that all forms of attacks on German soldiers or civilians will be dealt with severely, meaning tried and executed for breaking the rules of war. We had no further issues of acts of sabotage or attacks.
    Poland surrendered and we thought our short war was over, with Russia in Poland now, we all wondered why England did not declare war on them. Made us think they only wanted to fight us to settle old scores, they just used Poland to do it. We settled into occupation duties for a few short weeks and held reviews and repaired equipment. We also helped the Polish people rebuild, the small town we stayed in took some damage so we helped the people rebuild some of their homes and farms. Our engineers stayed very busy. We were sent back to Germany to reorganize into the 7th Panzer and upgrade to new Pz II and III. We had gained great confidence but still had angst regarding the overall situation in the west, learning that the French attacked and occupied Reich territory did not help.

    Me: Where did you end up next?

    We reorganized in Germany, trained on our new panzers and prepared for action against France. The Fuhrer made peace requests to the allies, all of which were turned down. We read that England accused us of being conquerors and invaders, terrorizing Europe. It was ironic that this nation who built its reputation as a colonizing power over the whole world, was accusing us of the same. It still bothered me that they declared war on us, but not Russia, for attacking Poland.

    On May 10, we were part of the first wave to attack France and race to the Meuse. We were confident, but still scared to death. We were about to attack the 2 largest armies in the world, being outnumbered 10 to 1 we had a horrible sense that they easily could push our small forces all the way to Berlin. We had an unknown General, named Rommel who was leading us, and I noticed right away he liked to lead from the front. Our first action against French tanks came around Arras, the British also joined in. We were being beaten since we were heavily outnumbered; our anti-tank guns were useless against the superior tanks. Enter Rommel, he orders our flak units to deploy their heavy 88 guns in a ground role. The allied tanks were stopped dead with heavy losses. We captured our first British prisoners who were stunned and in shock. They were still confident that 1918 would happen in 1940. After this action, the allies looked broken and demoralized. The attack that hit them from the Ardennes came as a complete surprise as they had the bulk of their armies up north. The Fuhrer allowed his generals to put together a great plan.
    Shortly after our victory, we were pressing the Allies to the coast, but right when it appeared we trapped them and could swing and capture the bulk of the BEF we halted. We had no idea why. We had the enemy beaten, and were ready to deliver the knockout blow. It is claimed today that we stopped because the Fuhrer was afraid we were over extended and under supplied. This is not true. Our flanks were reinforced, our supply lines were greatly improved since Poland, and we had plenty of fuel and ammunition. This caused some anger and frustration among our ranks. Even the LW had to halt attacks on the area around Dunkirk. Rumors were some LW pilots disobeyed orders and still went ahead and attacked the beach’s claiming they were chasing allied fighters away. We did have complete control of the sky and land. We were ordered to assist French refugees and work with arriving Red Cross personnel, as always, we helped rebuild what we had shared responsibility in destroying.
    We found out the BEF and parts of the French army had escaped to England. This was disheartening as we were so close to capturing them all. It is now known that our government was desperately using neutral countries to try to end the war. The Fuhrer, I believe, halted us to allow the allies to evacuate to show them we were serious about peace. They claimed we could not be trusted, we were sneaky, we violated their treaties, so what better way to demonstrate our commitment to end this, than to allow their army to come home. Since they ended up being the victors, it is easy to turn it around and make us look incompetent with incompetent leaders. I am always amused that the English make it seem like the Fuhrer was a terrible field commander for letting them escape, when he was just being humane. If we had smashed Dunkirk, they would be talking about how cruel and unfair we were to destroy a trapped enemy who lacked tools to fight back.

    Me: Did you ever meet General Rommel?

    Yes, he was everywhere among us. One thing I can say that National Socialism did is it made everyone realize that we are all equal. It stripped away that old aristocratic attitude that money makes the man, and gives him a station. NS says all men are created equal, and should be respected and judged by the contribution they make to help their people. Rommel embodies this belief; he would eat with us, sleep with us, and knew many of us by first names. My best memory was when I was promoted to Gefr, we were in formation receiving awards. I was not feeling well, and probably looked like it. Rommel approached me and I looked forward, saluted, and passed out. I was told he made sure I was quickly taken to the hospital and he ordered me some special healing water. He came to visit me in the hospital, giving me my Iron Cross 2nd class and my panzer badge for actions at Arras. He spoke to me for a good while, saying he would arrange for me to go on leave and go home to get better. He made such a good impression on me. Sadly, he left our division for service in Afrika so I never saw him again.

    Me: Did you see any war crimes in France?
    Not from our side. That may seem odd to you, as I am sure you have been taught we rampaged throughout Europe, but the truth is far different. The allies in France were guilty of shooting their own civilians if they suspected them of sympathy to us. We saw many French turn out to welcome us, as they admired our country and did not see us as enemies. I do not want to give the impression I am saying all the French loved us, because the majority did not, but a few did and if they were found out, they paid a heavy price. The African soldiers seemed to be particularly eager to break the rules of war, as any area they had been in, there were many complaints from the civilian population about looting, rape, and murder. When they were captured, special attention was paid to interrogate them to see if they were involved in anything illegal. We also heard rumors that the English used bullets that they reversed to cause more damage, but I never saw this. This is my extent of war crimes knowledge. The French and English always seemed to fight in a way that may have blurred the rules of war, but they never seemed cruel or sadistic, unlike what we came across in the east. The English prisoners I met in France seemed like good people who were forced to fight a war they really did not care for, just like us.


    Me: What was your impression of the Waffen SS?

    I was always impressed with them; they saved us more than once. They were never quite used how they were intended. They were always mixed in with army groups and used as fire brigades, meaning they were sent only to very active parts of the front to stabilize the situation. Being in the panzer formations I always viewed us as being elite, just like the SS. Some of my comrades had been in the prewar SS, then drafted. We fought alongside the Totenkopf div in France; I have nothing bad to say about them. They were taught to fight hard and be courageous, and it showed.

    Me: What about all the atrocities they are accused of?

    Those mean nothing to me. There is a saying “The victor rights the history of a war” and WW2 is a prime example of this axiom. I lived through six years of war and the post war years, I can state with a clean conscience that I never saw our side harm any innocents. The German army is now being accused of the same crimes the SS has been accused of, killing civilians, shooting Jews, looting, burning down whole towns for no reason, and cruelty. Therefore, we are in the same boat now. I knew two classmates who joined the Waffen SS, and never returned home, they served their nation just like me in an honorable way. I have seen the movies, read the books, and listened to the “eyewitness’s” tell their story of what happened, it is a one sided story, where the other side is not allowed to speak unless they agree with what the victors say, lest they face investigation.
    This war was a war where civilians actively involved themselves sometimes, either in direct combat, or in acts of resistance, both of which are illegal. When we encountered this, we had to be firm, which to some may seem equally as bad but they did not see the results of these acts of “resistance” many on our side saw. We fought all over Europe, and think of all the ethnic peoples involved, each having different views, and goals. The Balkans were a hornet’s nest after we moved on; I had a friend from the RAD who had to deal with a train that derailed from a big bridge in Serbia, bringing wounded soldiers home from Greece. All on board died from this attack from communist partisans. Soldiers were just a few of the people, men, women, and children all died, so our security forces, helped by locals, took the job of finding these killers serious. Anyone who helped them was fair game. That is what we were up against all over Europe.

    Therefore, when you hear all these stories about what we did to the innocent civilians, there is much more to the story that you are not being told. The Waffen SS were excellent soldiers, just like their comrades in the Wehrmacht, we may have had some banter between us, just like in all military formations, but we each respected the other. They paid a heavier price after the war, as they were labeled criminals by the victors, bringing instant death sentences to many for only serving their nation.

    Me: you served on the Russian Front, what was it like?

    The 7th Panzer was in the fight from the very first day, I remember it well. We knew we were going to attack Russia as soon as we were sent east into Poland. We had received training that dealt with the T26 tank that was thinly armored, much like out 38t, and we knew from there we would be going to be fighting a colossus of a nation. We had more confidence this time as we had beaten both France and England when both outnumbered us. June 22 started for me very early in the morning. We could hear rumbles that sounded like thunder, it was our artillery. We were ordered to assemble for marching orders. Our CO told us we must capture every soldier we can and search the officers and commissars very well. The reason being, I learned later is we believed Russia was preparing to attack us, a belief that was proven by the fact we found maps of western Poland and the Reich on many frontline officers we searched.
    At first, we saw no Russians; it was like a peacetime parade. We saw destruction on the sides of the roads, enemy trucks, cars, tractors, animals, and some dead soldiers but no enemy in force. The Poles came out to greet us as liberators and gave us water. No sooner after I thought this was going to be easy, than we were hit by a large Soviet attack. Again it was the same story, the enemy tanks were more numerous, and better armored than us, and we met the T-34 in force. This would not be the last time we danced. We quickly lost a few of ours, but we dealt this tank division a crippling blow. I believe we knocked out 80 tanks that day; many were T-34’s.
    I was in a 38t, which could stand up against the T26, but not much else in Russia’s stockpile. My first engagement luckily was with the T26, which almost ended as disaster. We were dealing with a whole Soviet tank division, my panzer had gotten separated from our company and came face to face with 4 T26 tanks, they saw us first and fired. How they all missed, I cannot explain, as they were only 175 meters from us. I sighted the first one and fired, knocking it out, we turned the turret, shell loaded, and fired again. The second tank exploded in a ball of flame, shell loaded, target acquired, I was shaking and sweating badly, fired, direct hit. I saw the crew bail out and run away. Last tank was hit and put out of action. No sooner had we destroyed these when another tank appeared and fired, hitting us in the engine section, putting us out of action. I was able to turn the turret, focus, and fire, knocking him out and saving us from destruction. Help arrived in the form of our “lost” company who secured our flanks and fought off Soviet infantry.
    We were towed back to our repair area so that we could be made ready again. We were hearing very heavy fighting in front of us, now the Russians seemed everywhere. As we continued our early advance, I was quite surprised at the vast amount of men and material we encountered. We saw endless columns of prisoners and literally hundreds of supply dumps with plenty of equipment. Stalin claimed after the war, that our invasion stunned him, as we had asked him to sign a non-aggression pact, I find that hard to believe since what we saw was a vast army, being supplied for an attack. We caught this vast juggernaut by surprise, and with lightning speed was able to disrupt those plans.
    The next months were filled with rapid advances, prisoners, tank on tank fights, and victory, but at a heavy price. Many comrades had fallen by this time, some of our best leaders too. We started having this feeling as if we could not be stopped. The Russians outnumbered us, but we bested them in every fight, it was not easy, but we did.

    #2
    Pt. 2

    Me: Impressions of the Russian soldier?

    My impressions are all over the place. I saw some who looked like they crawled out of the depths of hell, others who could have been my brother. We received orders to recruit from the prisoners we took, helpers who were willing to work for us. In exchange, they avoided pow camps and stayed behind the lines. We had several helpers, or HIWI’s, one I remember was a pretty girl who we captured with a large group of women. She had a look of a Ukrainian and as I tried to have conversations with her, I could tell she hated communism. Many of my company wanted to woo her, our CO gave strict orders she was not to be courted in any way. This was a rule we found hard to obey, as she was very flirtatious and friendly. It turned out she was a very good cook and ended up assigned to our goulash cannons.
    Other Russian soldiers we interacted with were not very pleasant, especially the commissars we captured. It has often been told that they were largely Jewish, and I can personally say I saw this first hand. The commissars were political officers put in the ranks, to make sure soldiers obeyed Stalin’s orders. They had the power to shoot anyone for any reason they saw fit, all with the blessing of Stalin. Because of the stories being circulated by our allies regarding treatment in past conflicts, the commissars were thought of as murderers and cowards from the very beginning. They were deeply interrogated by all levels of intelligence and police, and if they were found to be in areas where crimes were committed against the Wehrmacht or civilians they were executed as it was reasonable to conclude they had something to do with it. Some higher ranks were sent back to the Reich for our SD to try to learn more information from them.
    We came into many towns where frantic civilians came rushing up to our recon units crying hysterically because loved ones had just been killed or taken by retreating Soviets. Always in the conversation was the NKVD officers who had ordered the killings and kidnappings. This is why when captured, these monsters were in turn shot down many times, due to the brutality we saw, but this was left to the police units who did investigations. Many a Russian thanked us for bringing these people to justice. Today quite a different story unfolds. We stand accused of just executing these criminals just because Hitler said to or because they were Jewish.
    In turn, once the area was free of Soviets, the remaining civilians sometimes turned on anyone who collaborated who did retreat in time; many times it ended up being Jews. We once came upon a scene in a small town we liberated; Jews who did not escape were executed in the town square, the mayor telling our General that these people were responsible for the deaths of many by working with and for the NKVD to turn in anyone who opposed Stalin. It was sad seeing whole families shot down, but the other side of the coin was these same people caused the deaths of innocents also. Hate breeds hate. During the war in the East, I also saw many partisans punished by hanging for attacks against our allies and us.
    We would do public hangings to try to expose their crimes, so that civilians would see we did not just randomly pick them. Which was a catch 22 as it also turned some of the population against us, as they only saw it as us killing their fellow citizens. They did not understand the laws of war, as Soviets were not concerned with humanity in wartime it seemed, but our punishments are now the bigger crime.
    We did our best to treat all Russian soldiers and civilians with respect and civility, and for the most part this was successful. Any German’s photo album will always have photos showing a good relationship with the Russian people. The beauty of Ukrainian women captured many of our soldiers, and many had relationships that lasted until the end, as these people hated the Soviet system, which had tried to exterminate them.
    I also remember how sneaky some Russian soldiers were; they faked surrender, faked death, and then would open fire when our guard was down. Some were quite cruel, lead of course by their commissars, they shot wounded, attacked hospitals and ambulances, partisans attacked hospital trains, even in the opening days we saw or heard stories regarding their conduct. They had no reason to be this cruel as we acted as professional soldiers and felt sorry for the misery these soldiers came from. It amazes me that they fought so hard, considering so many lived in poverty and misery. The power of propaganda is the only thing that can explain it, for me. They were told we were the evil ones coming to kill and rape. Yet it is ironic that their Jewish propaganda minister, Ehrenburg, ordered them to be killers and rapists, which they did to all nations of Eastern Europe.


    Me: Where you ever a crewmember on a Tiger?

    No, sorry to disappoint you, as I know everyone likes the big cats, but the biggest panzer I was ever on was the long barrel Mk IV, which was more than capable of knocking out any allied tank. I came to love this model. It had great armor, and was easy to work on. It was somewhat cramped as we kept all our belongings in or on the panzer. It was our home more times than not and we made sure we kept it as clean as we could. Pz Rgt 25 had Panthers later on during Kursk and at wars end, but I always managed to stay in the MkIV.

    Me: Was you panzer IV ever knocked out?

    Yes, oh yes, I am lucky to be sitting here today. I knocked out 27 enemy vehicles, and lost three MkIV’s that could not be repaired. The last time was close to the former Polish border in early 45. We were a rear guard to hold up the Russians to allow more units and civilians to escape to the Reich. Our driver was on lookout duty, and went to scout around. We were inside trying to stay warm and catch up on sleep, when suddenly we heard him yell at a distance that tanks were coming. We jumped into action, started the old girl, and no sooner did he jump in, that we received a hit on our drive sprocket, and then a shot hit the transmission and we started to smoke. Our commander ordered us out and to retreat to our lines, which we barely made it to before we had to retreat yet again in spite of all of being wounded lightly. We found our way back to our rgt, but now we had no panzer so we had to be infantry for the rest of the war, which we hated. I have heard the Panthers and Tigers were very difficult tanks to maintain and drive, so in a way I am glad I did not crew one, even though they were better armed.

    Me: What was the end of the war like?

    We were in constant combat from late 44 ‘til the end, we fought in Poland, East Prussia, and back to the Reich. It was very trying as we were vastly outnumbered, and under strength. We were trapped in Prussia along with thousands of civilians fleeing the propaganda fueled Soviets. We had ships take us back to the Reich, but we left all equipment behind. Something I should like to add is that the allies claim they bombed us so severely to slow and stop our production, but in Oct 44, Germany hit the highest production numbers of the whole war which shows the bombings were more to target cities more than factories.
    We realized in March of 45 that the end was near, and barring some miracle, we would lose this war. Our thoughts were now to our families and saving as many people as we could. Old, women, and children were the priorities and we did what we could to give them food and shelter. The Reich’s entire infrastructure was destroyed, no gas, water, electric, or medicine. People were dying from simple wounds and sickness. We evacuated pow’s which surprised me, I saw several ships loaded to the decks with striped uniformed camp prisoners too. A large ship loaded with inmates was later bombed and sunk by the allies killing most on board, which is not reported today.
    When we landed, we had no panzers, no food, and no hope. I saw a land full of wretched refugees from every nation, our political leaders were doing their best to get help to those who needed it, but the allies where bombing and strafing everything that moved, even though they could tell these were not military columns.
    I witnessed this personally, we were resting in a field when silver planes attacked a refugee column being escorted by a Red Cross ambulance, and many were killed and wounded for no reason at all. The irony we learned later was many were Russian prisoners of war. There were no military vehicles, and the pilots just seemed to want to attack anything moving. We limped our way into Schwerin and were told by our CO and a Volksstrum leader that the British were entering the city and that to avoid any other loss of life or damage to the city; he was sadly seeking to surrender. Many still wanted to stay in the fight, but we had no weapons to counter the British tanks, even a Waffen SS unit was depleted of all anti-tank pieces, only five panzerfausts is all we could find. The city was filling more and more with refugees from the east, and it was decided to surrender rather than put these people in a front line city, for us, the war was finally over. Our CO ordered a truce party under a white flag to contact the British and arrange for surrender. I was astounded at the vast amount of vehicle’s and material they had, I wondered how we had been able to last this long knowing that our weakest enemy had the capability to have so much. I could not wait to see what the Americans had.
    The first Tommy’s we encountered seemed quite cold. They ripped off badges and stole personal belongings at rifle point while forming us into ranks. I was beyond stunned, our company officers protested, only to be met with sarcasm and anger. These were not the same British soldiers we saw in France earlier in the war; I could sense 5 years of propaganda had turned their hearts dark. We were then herded off out of town being picked up by trucks with much nicer soldiers. They must have sensed we had been through something bad, as they went out of their way to give us food. Out ltnt complained about our prior treatment and a few British officers came over to hear him. He said they would investigate and punish anyone who acted against the rules of war. One of our comrades had his wedding ring returned to him after this. We were separated and processed into camps to be held as pow’s. We did not understand this, as the war was over for everyone, according to the rules we should have been released to go home. I was held until December of 1945. I was one of the lucky ones; I survived and was able to return home when so many could not.

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      #3
      Great read thanks for posting !

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        #4
        So, does anyone know if "big cats" was an expression used by the Germans in WWII for Panther and Tiger tanks and if so what the German language original is? I.e., grosse Katzen, dicke Katzen, some equivalent of the English (American) "big cats" which I have heard used for tigers and lions, or...?

        On an unrelated note, if I have 200 acres of land, a crew of mechanics, and lots of money, I would choose in this order: 1) a Sturmgeschutz III, 2) a Panzer IV like this man was in, 3) a Panther, and lastly 4) a Tiger I (or II) for driving around. In 1944 maybe not in that order!




        Quote from the interview:

        Me: Where you ever a crewmember on a Tiger?

        No, sorry to disappoint you, as I know everyone likes the big cats

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          #5
          Hey BB, if I remember correctly this man went to a few military shows and events in west Germany, and met a few collectors who must have hounded him about Tigers and Panthers, I can't remember what German phrase he used, I only wrote down big cats. He did not seem like he was very fond of them, as we now know of all the teething troubles they had.

          I spoke to another vet who said they may have scared the enemy and knocked out a unequal amount, but they also did a lot of damage to the Germans in the form of fire's and breakdown's.

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            #6
            Thanks and please post any other transcripts if possible.

            BB (Brian)

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              #7
              Very interesting. Thanks for posting.

              I had the honor of sitting down and talking to Knight's Cross recipient Eberhard Schmalz a couple years before he passed and he also said he didn't like the Tiger. He was a PazerJaeger, first in the Marder and then in the StuG III, but he attended a demonstration of the Tiger I and told his superiors that he was not interested in joining a tank unit equipped with them. He cited their size and weight, as it made rail loading and unloading difficult and also how most bridges could not handle the weight of the Tiger. That would severely hamper your movement either attacking or retreating if you had to perform long detours to find a suitable bridge.

              Anyway, he left the demonstration and said "put me back in my StuG III!"

              * I don't think he mentioned this specific point, but those of us armor nuts know that the Tiger had special transport tracks to enable it to fit on a flat car. Once the Tiger was unloaded at the front, the entire tracks had to be changed to prep it for battle. Not only was that a lot of work, but also not good if the tanks were needed in action immediately after arriving - which happened all the time as panzer units acted as fire brigades to seal off enemy penetrations and/or counter attack to throw back an enemy advance.

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                #8
                This is a great interview. Do you have any others from German soldiers?

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                  #9
                  Guys, I have literally hundreds of these.

                  TWS, I also met Herr Schmalz and he told me that same story. He added he hated working on things and only preferred to fight, in the Tiger he saw lots of extra work that was unwelcome to tank crews.

                  I'll post another soon. I have to be careful as many what these vets said is seen as hate and intolerance today, and easily offends, but I said I would tell their stories as they relayed them, leaving nothing out.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Bcarver View Post
                    Guys, I have literally hundreds of these.

                    TWS, I also met Herr Schmalz and he told me that same story. He added he hated working on things and only preferred to fight, in the Tiger he saw lots of extra work that was unwelcome to tank crews.
                    That's neat. He was a great man. I have a photo of him wearing my panzer officer black side cap. I'd brought it with me and he was game to put it on for a photo. I joke with my collector friends "my cap was worn by a Knight's Cross winner... (pause)... for five minutes."

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