Hermann Göring commited suicide on today's date

[amiklic1]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermann_G%C3%B6ring

His inteligence level, tested by the Ally doctor during his imprisonment, was 138.
He was a WW1 air ace, with 22 victories.
He was awarded with Blue max...

[Butch Gooch]

Herman G.

I would have loved to seen a film of his Fat Ass Swinging from side to side by his neck! Butch

[PaulR]

He was not so fat by then.

[Dan M]

PBS had an episode of Nazi Hunters about Goring last night. There were close ups of his Knights Cross, Blue Max, and diamond studded pilots badge. Are they now in any collections? The Knghts Cross seemed larger than normal. Was it something specially made for him?

[petopoint]

El Gordo

True, wasn't as fat and morphine free for the first time in decades. He certainly had a lust for the finer things in life though.

[Bob Hritz]

One of the great men of the 20th Century, in my opinion.

Those who insult him should post their lifetime accomplishments, such as being hand picked to lead the most famous air squadron, building a country's air force, making long standing laws for hunting, fishing, conservation, and forestry. After having shrapnel in his hip joint, along a nerve channel, he was addicted to morphine. This is not an excuse for drug addiction, but a common result.

I am sure his critics have far superseded his accomplishments. I am looking forward to reading about them.

Please post on.....

Bob Hritz

[juvatwad]

One of the great men of the 20th Century, in my opinion.

Please post on.....

Bob Hritz

His theft of personal property,persecution of Jews, and complicity in the holocaust tend to cancel out any of his other accomplishments as far as I'm concerned.


Ian

[Hagen]

The Knghts Cross seemed larger than normal. Was it something specially made for him?

Goering wore the Grand Cross of the Iron Cross. The only German soldier to do so in WW2.

[-Ray-]

Official mugshot.

He certainly knew how to manipulate and appeared to carry his dignity and demeanor to the end.

-Ray-

[Hagen]

Are they now in any collections?

I believe West Point has some of his medals.

[amiklic1]

His theft of personal property,persecution of Jews, and complicity in the holocaust tend to cancel out any of his other accomplishments as far as I'm concerned.


Ian

With true dignity to all war victims, I think that putting just part of them in front of the others is nothing more that disgusting. Take a look at this, just to mention:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDr65Uj8Jn0

My people were suffering through centuries, so I know what I am talking about. Be it from Otoman empire, Serbs, Italians or whoever else...

The resons for start of the WW2 are much beyond today's history books, written by winners, as always. That's also one thing I have learned from my people.

We all should be clever enough to admit the holocausts of all kinds, not only the "official one".

I'd like, also, all of us to try to figure out all the war crimes commited by USA soldiers, Russsian soldiers, Yugoslavian soldiers, britain soldiers etc etc, which were never prosecuted, mainly because they were dony by winners.

Before we do so, we just do not have the right to judge about any other army or individual. All of us, I am sure, have some dust in front of our doors which have to be wiped away first.

[Tim O'Keefe]

With true dignity to all war victims, I think that putting just part of them in front of the others is nothing more that disgusting. Take a look at this, just to mention:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDr65Uj8Jn0

My people were suffering through centuries, so I know what I am talking about. Be it from Otoman empire, Serbs, Italians or whoever else...

The resons for start of the WW2 are much beyond today's history books, written by winners, as always. That's also one thing I have learned from my people.

We all should be clever enough to admit the holocausts of all kinds, not only the "official one".

I'd like, also, all of us to try to figure out all the war crimes commited by USA soldiers, Russsian soldiers, Yugoslavian soldiers, britain soldiers etc etc, which were never prosecuted, mainly because they were dony by winners.

Before we do so, we just do not have the right to judge about any other army or individual. All of us, I am sure, have some dust in front of our doors which have to be wiped away first.

C'mon. If the Germans had won the War, there would still be people being sent to their death today....try as you like, nothing compares to the tr. Revisionist history has no place here.

Never forget !

[amiklic1]

C'mon. If the Germans had won the War, there would still be people being sent to their death today....try as you like, nothing compares to the tr. Revisionist history has no place here.

Never forget !

I agree with you, but that's alwas "what if"...
Me personally do not belong to any political or any other organization, or I am on anyone side.

My people are residing on this part of the world for thousand years, and I will not take lectures from few-centuries old system members, for sure.

I have a power in myself to confess to myself that members of my people have commited some of the worst WW2 crimes (as the only known child's concentration camp). On the other side, amongst them were many many people fighting to get rid of Yugoslav and Serbian influence and boot on our neck. Also, on the other side, my grandfather was partisan and won the war, also fighting for Croatian people.
I'm not sure you can see the difference while saying it's revisionist view ;-)

German people were thrown to the war, and not entirely by sole AH and his men. If Germans were not suffering enormous hunger and life-threatening situation, mostly presented by western allies and winners of WW1 through the banks, debt, financial speculations etc (does anyone see the parallel with today's world?) , AH would never be able to raise his power. I just wish WW2 never happen, as I believe most of the normal people.

Also, don't forget that German nation raised twice, both times as a defeated force, and are still amongst strongest people on Earth. My hat down to those ordinary, working people who can endure that situation and still stand proud.

Japan, as the other strong nation, for instance, suffered no crimes at all during Fukushima crisis (!!!). NO CRIMES AT ALL, HEY!. And now look for the Sandy alone and see how many crimes, theft etc was commited.
I am ashame but have to say that my people, as well as most other I know, are similar and people would make too bad things in any kind of crisis.

Not saying about WW1 or WW2 now, but of the state of mind of one nation against the other.

Not to compare Russian's rapes vs mosty good attitude of USA and Brit guys.

If all of us do not confess and face the fact that there are good and bad men on either side, we can't wolk any step further...

Today conquerors are just the same as in those days, it's much more than just a terrorist threat, it's run for oil etc... But some of us will stay blind forever, unfortunately.

[amiklic1]

C'mon. If the Germans had won the War, there would still be people being sent to their death today....try as you like, nothing compares to the tr. Revisionist history has no place here.

Never forget !

Btw, as a most-of-my-life soldier, I have to mention another thing.

USA won the war, and today, many years after WW2 it's sending it's sons, best of the best, to their death around the world.
take a look about how many USA sons died in last 5 decades. You'll see some amazing numbers.
Take a look about how many civil victims there are during all those years in Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan etc, to mention just few...

Those were God's creatures, for God's sake, and we cannot just call them numbers.

I wouldn't like that to happen to my family, would you?

Conclusion is that people are being sent to their death even if germans lost the war, aren't they? (just don't start the political debate after this, please stay focused on the facts and numbers).
I quit the Army after I refused to fightwith NATO in Afghanistan, as it's not my war. I do not hate those people there, and we, Croatisn people, won our war for independence, in which the whole world closed it's eyes when our children were slaughtered, our woman raper, our cities bombed. Have you ever experienced that, has your family ever lived in a shelter for months, my friend?

If the answer is yes, I'm sure, you would have a different look over the world, wars and everything else...

[Obersalzberg]

What Mr Hritz says of Goering is so true.
Even today there are traces of this renaissance man to be found tied into German law, especially concerning hunting legislation that is still enacted.

Goering once famously boasted at Nuremberg, in 1946, in fifty years there will be statues of me here, maybe not big statues, but never the less statues.

He's quite right, available in many collector stores, made by 3R...s$250.
Interesting brand logo...

He was, and remains perhaps Hitlers most loyal follower, just look at his Nuremberg trial display, despite Bormanns attempts at the end to discredit this colussus of a man.