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**Paul R.** · 03-20-2011, 01:30 PM

Usually 1 silica pouch is good for that size frame..

**CharlieFirpo** · 03-20-2011, 02:01 PM

Thanks Paul,
One more question: I have currently 1 gram bags here, I have used 4 of them for each box...shall I use more? Or get bigger bags?

Thank

**Paul R.** · 03-20-2011, 03:26 PM

One package should be enough for that size frame unless you live in extreme humidity. Then I would use two. You may at some point invest about $30.00 and purchase a humidity gauge (some gauges can run several hundred dollars). That way you can also check humidity levels in the room where your things are kept. I have also purchased some of these humidity cards from Talas Conservation Supply, and other conservation sites. These cards are treated paper and last about 2 years. Keep in mind they are not very accurate and I find the usually around 10 degrees off here's Talas link to the cards. http://apps.webcreate.com/ecom/catal...roductID=18878

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**CharlieFirpo** · 03-20-2011, 04:23 PM

Thanks,
Unfortunately I can say, I am in an extreme humidity (I like it though), I have 2 little humidity gauges with battery operating.
The average humidity is 60-62%, if you get the air from outside, then it can go back to 47-50% (in a way of washing machine is on or something like that, then it can climb to 70% also)...windows are closing far to good

If these gauges are measuring right...
Temp. is around 24-25 degr. Celsius.

Thought about an electric dehumidifier also...
But actually I just don't want to have all the stuff gone to the dust...so I am searching for the best solution.

Strange, that no mould exists in neither room.

**Paul R.** · 03-20-2011, 04:50 PM

I would some how invest in a dehumidifer. It will help with mold and mildew that appear on cloth,(wool, cotton,canvas) paper, leather, and fur items. Try to achieve 43-45% 24/7/365. The out side air is a big culprit. Also make sure the material in the frame will not attreact moisture. Use either quilters batting, or fleece both do not attract moisture

**CharlieFirpo** · 03-20-2011, 05:19 PM

Strange is, that there isn't any mold in the house...don't know if I can even trust to these gauges.

I have coin boxes for keeping the medals and badges in, these type:

http://www.nomismata.de/epages/61243...7806084&Page=2

Used some velvet inlet for them, 100% poliester. Below it a spongy stuff (don't know what it is, but cut the holes for holding the badges), but also from poliester - same kind of stuff what is used for packing computer and electronic stuff...dark, spongy stuff, bit harder.

These boxes are closing quite good, I would say if you are not opening them they are quite tight.

Are these stuffs ok for my beauties?
Another one: these silica bags, is it a problem if these bags are touching the badges or the ribbons?

Thanks master

**Paul R.** · 03-20-2011, 06:30 PM

You don’t have to see mold to have mold spores. Mold spores are all over, and can be active when conditions are correct (humidity). From what I can see on the coin shop page I’m not a fan on the spongy blue background. I would use quilters batting covered with fleece. If your heart is set on velvet just be sure it’s 100% polyester. If you use a wood frame I would sand off the old varnish a apply a new hard poly satin, or gloss sealer. Most display cases (factory) are usually sealed with poor varnish that over time will out gas. Also stay clear of wood heavy laden in pitch, or tannic acid such as pine, or black walnut unless it poly clear coated with several coats

**CharlieFirpo** · 03-20-2011, 07:18 PM

Thanks Paul,
The velvet is 100% poliester, also the spongy part below it, thats for sure.
I will search for the type of the wood, from what it was made, but don't think it is something too special.
I will also get a dehumi. for the room, just to be safe.

Last question: if I throw the silica bags into the box, can they touch the badges or better not?

The badges are separated from the others, also from ribbons, but don't know if these little bags have something what can damage them.

**Paul R.** · 03-20-2011, 07:47 PM

As long as the packets are sealed, and there is no loose silica beads you are okay.

**Larry Lipps** · 03-20-2011, 07:53 PM

Keep in mind that Silica Gel has to be perodically regenerated or it becomes useless. It's not a throw the packets in and forget it fix.

**schönbeck** · 03-21-2011, 01:28 AM

We have a dehumidifer in the basement which is partially underground. In summer time the humidity raise up to 60-70%. The washed cloth takes forever to dry and so on.
That is before I bought the dehumidifer. WOW, you have to empty a bucket of water each day. That's approx 7 liters.
I can really recommend it. That moisty enviroment isn't healty.

**CharlieFirpo** · 03-21-2011, 04:28 AM

Thanks folks to all for the comments, I am looking forward to get an electric dehumi. stuff I think. Will check the types first

I have bought indicator silica bags, so if it will get green, then they will go to the microwave or to the oven for heatup.

I will check their status for eg. in each week, don't want to open and close the boxes all the time (so the bags will become useless)

**schönbeck** · 03-21-2011, 08:54 AM

Woods is the best and works forever with out any problems.
If you want a smaller and more flashy thing you should go for the Mitsubishi

**Hans Kondor** · 03-21-2011, 03:10 PM

Originally posted by CharlieFirpo View Post

Thanks,
Unfortunately I can say, I am in an extreme humidity

Thats because you live with a dragon lady.

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