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    #1

    preserve a wood plaque

    http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=294925

    OK conservation guys,
    I utilized the search button for wood preservation on the conservation threads. There is really only a few threads...all say do nothing, but if you have to.. use linseed oil. But from experience linseed oil leaves a thin outer coating...would I not rather have somthing soak in?

    But, I want to just keep the wood from drying out and cracking and all other things wood gets up to in its old age.

    I have this Wewelsburg plaque...it is very special...kind of a one of a kind...maybe. check the LINK provided at top.
    Every now and then after applying wood polish to the household furniture I think,.... "dang all those purist collectors! I want this plaque to survive hundreds more years...maybe some wood polish would aid in the preservation after all! Maybe they just err on the side of do nothing as they only look for this lifetime duration.

    I wonder, what do you guys think,
    exactly why not some good wood working oil?

    Or why not really good olive oil if the modern chemicals are the problem?


    Anyway, it is protected in a glass cased( so I can look at it without taking it out) wood box securly ensconced and it wont move, then it is kept hidden away from the light of the sun or elements.

    I thank you for reading this.
    --Michael
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    In the field of conservation there has been a lot of discussion on preservation of wood items. The minute a tree is cut down and dried and cut up for wooden items the wood itself is has changed. The cell structure has changed 70% of it original character. Unfortunally nothing can be done to stop this change. We hear that Murphy Oil, Lemon, Orange Citrus oil, Pledge, Uncle Joes back yard formula will return wood to its original state. That is so far from the truth NOTHING will reverse wood to a natural state before it was cut down. Even common household furniture polish with silica will not reversed it. It can acutally distroy it faster. Linseed oil will put another sealer on the wood sealing off any air from the surface. The best thing to do is control the humidity, and temprature that it is kept in. Avoid sunlight excessive houehold lighting(like those miniture spot lighting units). Heat,humidity, sunlight are the worst enemy of wood. Also keep the plaque away from the household cooking area. That will attract dirt and grime to the surface. Sorry there is no long term cure all for wood.
    By the way the plaque looks in really great shape. Paul
    Last edited by Paul R.; 06-21-2008, 03:16 PM.

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      #3
      thanks

      Thanks PaulR,

      thank you for getting this thread back on track from the gibberish from the last guy.
      I understand and accept the premise that there is no treatment to RESTORE wood to a younger and fresher composition.

      AS to a deterrant to quicker negative aging, I see you are saying that after all physical avoidances are done, the use of linseed may have some efficacy.

      So as I have never used linseed on a painted portion of wood, I ask how does linseed react to a painted part on wood?

      I also have learned how hot linseed oil gets for awhile(a bit concerning as to what that could do to wood, paint etc as it heats up to set, and general fire concerns).
      Anything else on linseed oil I should know before contemplating proceeding?

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        #4
        thank you Moderator Ralf Pickard

        A round of thanks is due to WAF Moderator Ralf Pickard,
        he has quickly and resoundedly stepped in and suspended a new member who needed to be removed quick.
        Just the wasting of time alone was annoying.

        thanks again,
        Michael

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          #5
          It sounds like you have your heart set on applying new linseed to your great plaque...
          I would seriously advise you to think about applying any linseed on a old wood stained and painted plaque. Things to consider would be the old paint/stain itself has become some what deterioted. If you apply new linseed this could result in a color alteration from the original color. Mostly due in part to the aging process of the original paint/stain. Old paint/stain contains levels of lead. In time lead deteriorates with in it's self.
          By applying a fresh coating you will not help to preserve the wood/paint. Rather run a very strong risk of changing the paint/stains color. It's to hard to tell what would happen to it. I would also state heated linseed could result in a color shift. Yes, it may appear to be a bit shinier, but again the newly applied linseed is not reversible. It would need to be striped off and a newer stain/paint would need to be applied. However it is your plaque to do with what you see fit.
          I am mearly offering to you, and every one else my 28 years of conservation experience with wood paint/staining. Paul

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            #6
            Your plaque looks to be carved of oak. Oak lasts a long time and usually needs little in the way of extra curricular care if in sound condition.

            It's condition looks to be fine from what I can see.

            Why would you want to mess with it?

            All wood expands and contracts with seasonal changes to some degree depending on relative humidity. Totally sealing it can induce unforseen stresses on ocassion. It has survived superbly til now. Why chance impairing this rare item? Often times the less one does is the best path to take.

            Keep it dry and out of harmful light and you should have no problems.

            Tony
            An opinion should be the result of thought, not a substitute for it.

            "First ponder, then dare." von Moltke

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              #7
              PaulR and Tony,
              I take your points seriously, and appreciate the information. At this time, with what you all have told me, I must concur with you both, and just leave the plaque alone. Of course still to be kept in a box and totally out of light except when looked at.

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                #8
                I have read all the questions and information above, and I must agree with the final conclusion. Based on all the chances of adversely altering something, I'd also just leave the plaque as it is, only controlling humidity, light exposure, etc.

                By the way Michael, that's an absolutely beautiful plaque you have there. It must indeed be very rare, as I've never seen another like it.

                Chris

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