ID shoulder boards with double underlay

[J. Hahn]

First I thought reserve artillery, but then the grey should be at the bottom - so what are these?

[J. Hahn]

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[PaulR]

LW Supplementary Officer. Really cool.

[Johnny R]

Rare to see as well especially in that rank.

[PaulR]

Rare to see as well especially in that rank.

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[J. Hahn]

Hey guys, thanks for the feedback. This was also my initial thought, and why they caught my interest. But then I had a second look in the Uniforms & Traditions books, and there it is described that the grey underlay should be the bottom one - like Heer Reserve. Is this incorrect? Since LW Reserve boards have the main branch color at the bottom, it would make sense for supplementary to do the same, but who knows -not much written about this, that I could find.

[echoe]

double underlay

yes. i noted same from angolia luft book.
could be a misunderstanding on author's part.

[PaulR]

With the luftwaffe three layered officer boards, the branch color is on the bottom. I think that the Angola book is in error. That is a Heer reserve board pictured and described.

Example- Admin Services has the dark green branch color(Waffenfarbe). The center color, or nebenfarbe, denotes specialty.

For the supplemental(replacement) officers, the branch color(waffenfarbe) is on the bottom. The designation is the center layer- supplemental officer is light grey.

See page 113 of "Uniforms and Insignia of the Luftwaffe, Vol 1: 1933-1940"

It only makes sense because the reserve officers were done in the same way for their boards(blue inner layer).

The Heer did not have a color system that these boards would fit under.

[J. Hahn]

With the luftwaffe three layered officer boards, the branch color is on the bottom. I think that the Angola book is in error. That is a Heer reserve board pictured and described.

Example- Admin Services has the dark green branch color(Waffenfarbe). The center color, or nebenfarbe, denotes specialty.

For the supplemental(replacement) officers, the branch color(waffenfarbe) is on the bottom. The designation is the center layer- supplemental officer is light grey.

See page 113 of "Uniforms and Insignia of the Luftwaffe, Vol 1: 1933-1940"

It only makes sense because the reserve officers were done in the same way for their boards(blue inner layer).

The Heer did not have a color system that these boards would fit under.

I agree, makes more sense this way. Would be interesting to see the exact wording in the original regulations though.
I might've found another pair of supplementary boards actually - for a flight Hauptmann. The grey is more bluish, but they are not faded reserve for sure. Interestingly they are close to the color on the "mystery tabs" I found a while ago.

[echoe]

supplementary

interesting set. interesting embroidery. not 'up' on luft stuff. be interesting to hear from the luft guys on this.

[PaulR]

Weird on the tabs, as it is specifically stated that the collar tabs for supplimental officers were oridinary.

[J. Hahn]

Well, as I understand it, the regulations don't state anything about the tabs at all. So from that, one would assume they are ordinary. That's also why I still label them as mystery tabs

[PaulR]

Just in- a really nice Air Traffic Control ( Hauptmann d. B, traffic control)

[J. Hahn]

Very interesting Paul, never seen those before.

Re the order of the underlays on supplementary boards, I just found this passage in Angolia/Schlicht: "Die Deutsche Wehrmacht Uniformierung und Ausrüstung" vol 3 (Luftwaffe)



This confirms that the upper layer is grey!

[PaulR]

Thanks Jesper. Are yours red or orange?