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    Study of TWMs - Unmarked Foreign Made

    Fourth in the series, this thread will feature the most common Turkish War Medals that is available out there; the unmarked foreign made Turkish War Medals. I refer to foreign made as not made by the official Turkish mint Darphane. Foreign made Turkish War Medals has two country of origins; Germany and Austria.


    This thread contains only the basic information on this particular maker, hopefully we can discover new pieces, information and new evidence about this maker and develop this thread.

    Please feel free to add your Turkish War Medals from this maker here and share your opinions and knowledge for the newcomers.

    Thank you for your interest and participation.

    Tan Berk Kurtcebe
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    Maybe a postwar German type.
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      #3
      Thank you for your contribution, I think it has a great chance to be interwar period. I have a similar one and will share here all the different types I have on this thread.

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        #4
        Hi Tan.

        Another Gallipoly Star for reference. Not sure who made it but somebody said it was probably an AWS piece when I posted it for comments. Hope its of some use to you.

        Regards

        JC
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          #5
          Hello JC

          Thank you so much for your addition, much appreciated. It is a great foreign made example of a TWM. I call those stars which has the same strawberry enamel pattern (or else) on the front as unipattern. This is by no means a universal term, it is how I classify them because some TWMs has different patterns on their arms ( twopattern) and some of them has the same pattern throughout the front side. TWM collectors before me might have called them with different or even better names, but this is how I will call them, please let me know if there is a universally accepted term for the same pattern and two pattern medals.

          Sorry I could not add photos yet, but I have so many of those unmarked stars and making accurate photos is taking more time than I anticipated!
          Last edited by Tan Berk; 11-01-2014, 02:59 PM.

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            #6
            Here is another unmarked AWS.

            JC, can you post a pic of yours showing the pin?

            Thanks
            Rich
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            Interested in hand-stitched EM/NCO LW insignia and cuff-titles
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              #7
              Here is a marked AWS that I saved from the internet. Matches with my unmarked example. There seems to be variation in the amount and location of the rivets from piece to piece.

              I hope to owner does not mind as I do not remember whose this is.
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              Interested in hand-stitched EM/NCO LW insignia and cuff-titles
              Decorations of Germany

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                #8
                Very nice AWS one!

                One of my favourite ones and hard to get: A Wagner one with MM shield on the back
                I did not have the cash to buy it...
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                  #9
                  And here another one. I saw a few of them.
                  ... but i do not know, if they are fakes or not...
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Rich G View Post
                    Here is another unmarked AWS.

                    JC, can you post a pic of yours showing the pin?

                    Thanks
                    Rich
                    There you go Rich: back & side view showing the pin better. The only ones I have at the moment but let me know if you need more

                    Thanks for the help on IDing this one, much appreciated

                    Regards

                    JC
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                      #11
                      PS. Rich I notice that on mine the crescent is also separate from the star but it just looks welded (?) on while yours its attached by rivets and so is the marked one. Also the central device is less elaborate on mine (no small round cut outs) and the 3 top legs of the device are still attached on mine while yours are separate. Could be just a "finishing thing" (better craftsman on yours?) which results in differences like you see on J1 Pilots (claw detail, leg cut-out) or possibly mine is not AWS after all...

                      JC
                      Last edited by Jean-Claude; 11-02-2014, 04:57 PM.

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                        #12
                        JC,

                        Looking again at your example, I do not think it is an AWS afterall. To be honest I am not sure if it is original.

                        Why not post it in a separate thread for review or bring up the original thread it was discussed in?

                        Rich
                        Interested in hand-stitched EM/NCO LW insignia and cuff-titles
                        Decorations of Germany

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                          #13
                          I believe at least one of these is an unmarked Wagner:



                          Rich
                          Interested in hand-stitched EM/NCO LW insignia and cuff-titles
                          Decorations of Germany

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                            #14
                            I m just glad to see there are so many replied to this thread even before I uploaded my unmarked TWMs!

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                              Originally posted by Rich G View Post
                              JC,

                              Looking again at your example, I do not think it is an AWS afterall. To be honest I am not sure if it is original.

                              Why not post it in a separate thread for review or bring up the original thread it was discussed in?

                              Rich
                              Ouch! Thanks for the opinion Rich

                              JC

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