Penal Administration belt buckle to an officer

[marisca lrommel]

This is the penal administration of the III Reich buckle to an officer that I have for sale in this forum to find out their views.

[marisca lrommel]

Another belt and buckles on sale in oakleafmilitaria to another maker:

[klr]

Penal Administration belt buckle to an officer

I have one like it in my collection and I have owned for 20-25 years but there is a new generation of fakes that recently came out. There. Was a thread a few months ago title Possible New Fakes and this type was mentioned. Good straight on photos of the front and back would help. Here is one in gold.ImageUploadedByTapatalk1362764581.407446.jpgImageUploadedByTapatalk1362764701.436094.jpg

[klr]

Penal Administration belt buckle to an officer

ImageUploadedByTapatalk1362764779.568714.jpgImageUploadedByTapatalk1362764802.192839.jpg Pardon the photos but here is a silver one I have had 20-25 years.

[Ric Ferrari]

Pardon the photos but here is a silver one I have had 20-25 years.

Kirby's silver one is a textbook example to compare with.

Of course his gold one is original as well......

Ric

[marisca lrommel]

For me, are equal

[marisca lrommel]

It must be borne in mind that mine is made of aluminum, the klr does not.

It is the same manufacturer, same marking but different material and different time and dies

[marisca lrommel]

More images

[marisca lrommel]

another on sale equal on oakleafmilitaria

http://www.oakleafmilitaria.com/images/1209b2-1.jpg

http://www.oakleafmilitaria.com/1209b2.html

the prize request from oakleaf seller is 450$


seller description:

"1209B2 - Penal/Justice Official buckle by Assmann. This aluminum buckle is the style shown in John Angolia's authoritative book," BELT BUCKLES & BROCADES of the THIRD REICH" ( REVISED EDITION), published by R. James Bender Publishing, Copyright 2001, page 454 bottom photograph. This buckle features the short-winged right-facing eagle encircled by a wreath with a bow at the bottom. The reverse displays The Assmann "A" , DRGM and is dated"37". "

images from seller:

[Ric Ferrari]

It must be borne in mind that mine is made of aluminum, the klr does not.

Marisca,

Kirby's silver one is by alu like yours.

Ric

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To help viewers making their own opinion, let's start by a repro close-up : pay attention to pebbling inside leafs...

[marisca lrommel]

Is the image of the first plane that you publish my buckle or the klr?

Suggests you my buckle and Oakleafmilitaria(exactly the same as my buckle) are false?

[Ric Ferrari]

Is the image of the first plane that you publish my buckle or the klr?

Suggests you my buckle and Oakleafmilitaria(exactly the same as my buckle) are false?

If you're referring to close-up #10 , it's another buckle (100 % repro) just for comparison with yours.

Here's another close-up of the same repro shown by pic #10

Ric

[marisca lrommel]

But then, friend Rick... think my buckle is real or repro?: Confused:

[Ric Ferrari]

But then, friend Rick... think my buckle is real or repro?: Confused:

Please post close-ups of your buckle by the exact same angle as the repro posted (see pics #10 and #12).

So far something I like it and something don't, that's the reason of my request to post it for discussion.

Ric

[yellow12]

But then, friend Rick... think my buckle is real or repro?: Confused:

Hello ,

in my opinion also your buckle is a fake .

Kirby's has a white anodized finish how all other originals i know .

But yours missing this complet .

Also the markers stamping is not similar to the original .