4 badges and a medal

[JamesWoodward]

Hello all, these 5 are part of a purchase i would like to make. They all look fine originals to me, with no problems, but i would welcome second opinions! Happy new year

[Blued]

Both IABs look good to me and the minesweeper looks to be a possible Juncker unmarked, but you should post it in the Kriegs forum.

Close up pictures of the IABs are helpful though for final confirmation

[AndyC]

Both IABs look good to me and the minesweeper looks to be a possible Juncker unmarked, but you should post it in the Kriegs forum.

Close up pictures of the IABs are helpful though for final confirmation

I,ll agree with Chad but i cant comment the Police medal


Andy

[fischer]

Hi Guys

In regards to the IAB's...the UU marked Wiedmann with the lily pad hinge looks good but the other I refer to as the "Melting Fake" as is a bad one. Here is one to compare.

Best Regards, fischer

[Blued]

Good eye Fischer if that's the case

[petopoint]

Ready Aim Fire Infantry

Looks like someone's been plinking at the corners of the Silver Repro IAB with a .22 caliber.

[JamesWoodward]

So the IAB pictured next to the minesweeper is a fake?

[Thomas Durante]

Hi guys,

I tend to agree that the IAB is a fake. Although we don't see many of them at all, and there are indeed other badges that are seemingly similar crappy quality that are considered possibly wartime (i.e., some of the the flatback badges). The reverse hardware and finish look believable so that has always made me wonder about them, but agree that we are likely looking at a postwar creation.

Is there any history or provenance with these badges James?

Thanks

Tom

[Tom Yanacek]

Hello,

The Rudolf Karneth Minesweeper, Wiedmann Infantry Assault, Silver Driver Badge, and Police 8-Year LS are all nice originals.

The unmarked Infantry Assault Badge is the only bad one in the bunch.

Best regards,
Tom

[Tom Yanacek]

I tend to agree that the IAB is a fake. Although we don't see many of them at all, and there are indeed other badges that are seemingly similar crappy quality that are considered possibly wartime (i.e., some of the the flatback badges).

Hi Tom,

If I remember correctly, these IABs first surfaced around 2000-2001. I remember Detlev Niemann having a bunch of them that he was selling in the supposed original glassine/cellophane packets for €70 each. A short time later I remember them being called out as fakes, both the badge and the packets. Niemann concurred and quit selling them, or so I was told.

Best regards,
Tom

[JamesWoodward]

Hello, 1000 thank you's, this is my last and final great find for 2012!
Happy new year to all!

[fischer]

Hi Tom,

If I remember correctly, these IABs first surfaced around 2000-2001. I remember Detlev Niemann having a bunch of them that he was selling in the supposed original glassine/cellophane packets for €70 each. A short time later I remember them being called out as fakes, both the badge and the packets. Niemann concurred and quit selling them, or so I was told.

Best regards,
Tom

Hi Tom

These still show up on Dealers sites from time to time. The usually never have any finish, obverse details are always smashed (giving the "melting" look) and the base material is flat grey in color. Here is another I saved.

Best Regards, fischer

[Tom Yanacek]

Here is one with the cellophane packet, exactly like those that Niemann sold on his site. No way is this an original LdO cellophane packet.

[fischer]

Thanks for the pic Tom...Would you happen to have a reverse?

Best Regards, fischer

[Tom Yanacek]

Thanks for the pic Tom...Would you happen to have a reverse?

Best Regards, fischer

Hello,

No! Sorry I do not. But if you go to this thread, you will see the the same badge & packet posted there.

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...y+badge+packet

Allan P posted the badge on page 1, post number 8. Then on page 2, posts number 28 & 29 he shows the front and reverse of the badge from the packet. Frank H also shows another one of these fakes on page 2, posts number 16 & 17.

Best regards,
Tom