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    R.K. = Karneth. Any solid evidence?

    Hi~ This is my IAB , maker marked:?
    share with you guys~thanks~


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    Hi

    It looks like a nice one thought to be made by RK (Karneth).

    regards
    Graeme

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      #3
      No problem Edison

      Nice catich!!

      Eric

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        #4
        Good looking


        Andy

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          #5
          Hi Edison,

          I can only agree, a nice original likely made by Rudolf Karneth.

          Tom
          If it doesn't have a hinge and catch, I'm not interested......well, maybe a little

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            #6
            Hello

            I agree with the others as well...an attributed Rudolf Karneth. This one is the unpebbled leaf variant.

            Best Regards, fischer

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              #7
              Nice zink Karneth
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              Giel

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                #8
                thanks~

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                  #9
                  Let me play a little bit the devil's advocat here:

                  Why are we that sure that RK is "Rudolf Karneth" and that we can attribute this IAB to them?

                  In Gablonz there was another award making firm namend "R. Kreisel" and in official papers the company of Rudolf Karneth was namend as "Rudolf A. Karneth".
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                    #10
                    So how about the idea that the RK in a circle could be R. Kreisel instead of Rudolf A. Karneth?
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                      #11
                      Hi Andreas,

                      Very interesting observation! It would be interesting to know what other manufacturers were listed in that ad and blocked out. Were the other makers known from the PK and LDO lists?

                      Best regards,
                      ---Norm

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                        Hi Norm,

                        i only had the blocked picture in my files because i aksed the same question some months ago in a german forum so i can't say exactly which makers were blocked out.

                        If i remember it right the ad shows for 90% main makers like Schickle, Steinhauer, Zimmermann, Juncker and so on but there were firms which aren't mentioned in any list too.
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by ak72 View Post
                          So how about the idea that the RK in a circle could be R. Kreisel instead of Rudolf A. Karneth?


                          Sounds more than reasonable to me imo. My I ask if there are more discoveries like the Wiedmann history in your book Andreas?




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                          Daniel

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Nordmark View Post
                            Sounds more than reasonable to me imo. My I ask if there are more discoveries like the Wiedmann history in your book Andreas?

                            Regards,
                            Daniel
                            Hi Daniel,

                            we will have the real history of certain makers which hopfully bring some "think about" to the collectors if it's a really possible to link unmarked badges only with the used hinge/catch or if firms like Steinhauer & Lück were able to produce all the different badges which are attributed to them.
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                              Originally posted by ak72 View Post
                              Hi Daniel,
                              ... if it's really possible to link unmarked badges only with the used hinge/catch or if firms like Steinhauer & Lück were able to produce all the different badges which are attributed to them.
                              Well I don't want to divert this thread, but have to interject that I don't think anyone suggests to attribute unmarked badges only on the basis of their reverse hardware -- it is always based on a combination of many factors.

                              Likewise, maker marks do not provide sufficient attribution on their own since they can be added by anyone after production -- again it must be a combination of many factors.

                              But we'll leave that discussion for other threads.

                              Best regards,
                              ---Norm

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