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    please help with EK1.

    I was wondering about if it is good or bad. I think the maker is L 15 but I am not sure.
    thank you
    regards Rajko
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    and if it is good what is the value of it?
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      #3
      any opinions on this one? I am going to make the guy an offer tonight so any help would be great.
      thank you

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        #4
        Looks like a Souval with the dipping 3 in the 1939.

        Too bad the top of the pin is not clearer.

        I'll go out on a limb here and say it's good.


        Wayne

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          #5
          It has all the features of a Souval cross and if the marking is L15 the mark for Otto Schickle.
          Check out Peter's study of Souval framed EKs here: http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/FORU...d.php?t=143349

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            #6
            Thank you guys,

            What would be the value of the this iron cross?

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              #7
              IMO a good EK1 made from Souval and Orth parts, presumably assembled by one of those two makers. I'd say you should expect to pay +/- $200 (on the lower side of the EK1 price range).
              Best regards,
              Streptile

              Looking for ROUND BUTTON 1939 EK1 Spange cases (LDO or PKZ)

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                #8
                I would tend to agree with Trevor on the price, It is a fine Souval framed L15. around $180.00 US collector price.
                these crosses often are a set up for confusion due to the Souval Frame and L15 maker mark!
                Kev

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                  #9
                  This is a nice cross for showing the good cooperation between Orth and Souval ;-) I like this cross very much and I would spend more than 180 Euro for it ;-) Because it is a very rar option ;-)

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by 5tefan View Post
                    This is a nice cross for showing the good cooperation between Orth and Souval ;-) I like this cross very much and I would spend more than 180 Euro for it ;-) Because it is a very rar option ;-)

                    What's Orth got to do with an L15 mark and a Souval made cross?

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                      #11
                      Thank you guys for your help, their is a big chance I will have it my possesion soon.
                      Regards Rajko

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Darrell View Post
                        What's Orth got to do with an L15 mark and a Souval made cross?
                        Do you know the Orth point on the frame?

                        You can find a lot marked L15 with the Orth (point) frame and Orth core design.

                        Again ... L15 is not Otto Schickle!

                        Orth and Souval are well known for there very good cooperation.
                        The maker are both located @ Vienna.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by 5tefan View Post
                          .....
                          Again ... L15 is not Otto Schickle!

                          .......

                          Really? And who exactly is it? Orth? I guess they just threw an L in their by mistake?

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Darrell View Post
                            Really? And who exactly is it? Orth? I guess they just threw an L in their by mistake?
                            I think I can't help you

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by 5tefan View Post
                              I think I can't help you
                              Ok ... I'll bite ..show me where L15 has been deemed Orth.

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