1st splinter patern Herr camouflage smock on Collector's guild

[djpool]

heres a shot of the bottom of the smock so you can see how the liner was added.

[djpool]

heres a shot of the neck closure area also showing the liner to effect.

[djpool]

heres a shot of the inside wrist closure strap where the dye didn't take very well.

[djpool]

My markings

[djpool]

heres a comparison shot of the one in Wrners book with mine. One thing I have noticed is the similarity in the way it folds--this isn't really present on some of the known copies I've seen.Doubt this is significant.

[djpool]

heres mine compared to Andys.

[djpool]

HERES the front button holes.Mine is a lot sturdier then Andys.However I have seen buttonholes done in a similar manner on other original WH clothing.

[djpool]

here are the backs of the buttonhole. note that the weave on mine appears to be tighter.

[djpool]

heres the last picture just comparing the markings.Hope this helps in the discussion.Regards Jim

[andrew b]

It really makes me sick and I really hate what is happening here ( sorry Andy) but the fact remains the same, something is wrong with the splinter pattern shown in this smock.

I have seen real close up shots of the cloth.....to me it looks like real wartime HBT weaving. Stitching, cords.. all look OK. So if the print had been right... I'd say it's an OK smock...

Werner[/QUOTE]

Hi Werner and jim
unfortunately i lost all my close up photos of construction a few months ago when my pc went down and only have a limited few which i took before it went to peter , I compared mine to jims in his posts and will add mine but it looks like the construction is identicle and i do agree werner that the splinter pattern is differant and so is not right so when i get the smock back i will go to all lengths to get it date tested etc .What i cant believe is that if this is a repo why would they go to such fine detail in ever single way construction ,materials etc like you mentioned and not get the splinter pattern right which is the most valuble point
regards
andy
as for this phot its a close up of the neck and you can see a joint in the neck seem were all bits of material were used , would a repo go to this extent ??

[andrew b]

in this photo the seams are perfectly done ,and are the same as jims

[andrew b]

a close up of the hem joints and joinnings , would you compare these on yours jim

[andrew b]

white bleed through

[andrew b]

a close up of the white neck , if you look closely then you will see the hem joint is joined in the same place as the camo side , ???????????? is this going to far with creating a repo , this is also the same along the bottom end where the joints are identical on both camo and white sides

[andrew b]

,Sorry for these photos and i do agree with you all 100% on your judgements on the splinter pattern but could you compare these photos with any you may have or in jims case his smock as iam just hopeing that just because the pattern is not text book and these smocks been rare it still might be an original example but that one that has not been noticed before .
ps still gutted
pps if this is a true repo well it is the end of collecting as mentioned before ,if its only the print that is wrong