Anti partisan badge in gold with diamonds

[wehrpasswilly]

Hi lads, would appreciate your opinion on this and no I havn't just bought one at a flea market. Just got a 2003/2004 Nimmergut "Orden & Ehrenzeichen" medal catalogue/price guide and the book has a photo (both obverse & reverse of the anti partisan badge in gold with diamonds, every collectors dream addition to their collection. With over a 500 books in my collection this is the only photo reference I have ever seen on this award and wonder wether anyone out there has also got the same book and if this is a photo of a genuine piece or a "museum copy" Cant send attachments but if anyone wants a scan of the photo please send your mail and i'll oblige. Look forward to your comments. Regards Paul.

[Rich G]

I really can't comment on this badge but one picture I've longed to see is that of the special grade in gold with the blackened sword blade. Does anyone have a scan of this badge? Did it actually exist?

Rich

[mmiller]

Rich,

Can't find much on the 'Blackened Swords' version. I know I have seen a color photo but can't remember where, if my life depended on it! Here are two images that shed a little light.


Regards,
Mark

From Foreman's Guide to Third Reich German Awards...And Their Values 3rd Edition by Adrian Foreman:


From Orders, Decorations, Medals and Badges of the Third Reich by Littlejohn and Dodkins:

[Walter Sp]

Hey Rich,

the pic's you remember are in the book about the APB from Klaus Patzwall. There are pretty good colored pics from the version with the black sword and also good one's from the version with diamands. Unfortunatly I'm not able to post those pics, but could send it to you If you want to. Interesting is that Patzwall write in his book, that he don't believe in this special badge with diamands. He argued, that this badge was mentioned the first time by Klietmann in 1964. Klietmann has a notice in his records about a message from Mr. Napp, a former worker of the C.E.Juncker firm. He (Mr. Napp) said, that Juncker had produced 10 of this badges at the end of 1944 and that this badges were awarded too.

greetings Walle

[uwemue]

I`ve a picture of a Anti partisan badge with brilliants. I can`t post it. On interess, send me your mail adress. It`s from an auction of hermann-historica.

Regards

Uwe

[Klaus O.]

Hi Paul,

Here's the AP badge uwe was speaking of...


Ciao,

Claudio

[Klaus O.]

reverse:

[Christian L]

its a very interesting question!

but while looking at the pictures, i was thinking, how often juncker engraved the company name on awards?
and why the didn't engraved the content mark as well?
deschler didn't used the engraving on their diamont german crosses - didn't they?

christian

[Walter Sp]

Hi Chris,

send you a PM right now. I've send Richard Gordon just a few seconds ago pics from the article from Klaus Patzwall about this badge. He also don't believe in it.

greetings

Walle

[Bob Hritz]

I know of one badge like this, in a collection. Does anyone know if there is further information on the authenticity, or lack of same, on this type of Juncker APB with diamonds?

I know another pattern was dealt off at the MAX Show; the piece previously auctioned off by Mohawk Arms.

Bob Hritz

[Thomas Durante]

I know of one badge like this, in a collection. Does anyone know if there is further information on the authenticity, or lack of same, on this type of Juncker APB with diamonds?

I know another pattern was dealt off at the MAX Show; the piece previously auctioned off by Mohawk Arms.

Bob Hritz

Hi Bob,

I don't know if there has been more discussions on this one lately. I didn't see the one at the MAX, who had it and do you have any pics you can post?

Regarding the example shown above, I think it is very suspect that the 800 proof mark is stamped into the pin and not the badge itself. Also, the text from Dodkins says the badge was "gilded tombak (brass)", so there shouldn't even been a proof mark on the badge. The Juncker inscription is also suspicious, as has been mentioned. If they were indeed made and awarded, I don't think the one above is one of them IMO.

Tom

[Bob Hritz]

I would like to see a comparison of the incused 800 mark on the APB to that on the silver Juncker pilot badges.

Bob Hritz

[Obersalzberg]

Hi Bob,

I don't know if there has been more discussions on this one lately. I didn't see the one at the MAX, who had it and do you have any pics you can post?

Regarding the example shown above, I think it is very suspect that the 800 proof mark is stamped into the pin and not the badge itself. Also, the text from Dodkins says the badge was "gilded tombak (brass)", so there shouldn't even been a proof mark on the badge. The Juncker inscription is also suspicious, as has been mentioned. If they were indeed made and awarded, I don't think the one above is one of them IMO.

Tom

Stamping the badge would distort the badge. You can clearly see its high quality jewellers piece.as with Cartier who I worked for, they would be proud enough of a piece like this no doubt comm, to put theirouse name on it. The pin is marked, as its flat and in adorned

[Obersalzberg]

its a very interesting question!

but while looking at the pictures, i was thinking, how often juncker engraved the company name on awards?
and why the didn't engraved the content mark as well?
deschler didn't used the engraving on their diamont german crosses - didn't they?

christian

It wasn't Deschler who produced the diamonds, they jeweller who did had his name fair and square on the pin too.

[Bob Hritz]

Rath-München engraved their name on the pin of the German Cross with Diamonds.

Bob Hritz