Old modell Mess Kit with inserts :)

[MP44_tom]

Hi guys

Just like to show you my recently aquired Modell 1908 Mess Kit

It is stampes HRE 34 and Ritter Aluminium

These were made until 1940 I understood.....



Ritter Aluminium stamp


and HRE 34 stamp


But what's even nicer and I didn't know this, the Göffel is still in there
These models were delivered with the Spoon and Fork


and some detail pictures which show the method of holding the spoon and fork






Hope you like it and would love to see more models like this.....

[rick1]

Very nice thanks for showing. Never seen the goffel held like that before...very cool.

[MULON]

Nice one

These were made until 1940 I understood.....

You are on right, I have one SEL40 mm.

[daco]

nice mess kit

[JPhilip]

Hello Tom,
Nice messkit but the model is 1910...
made mainly in enameled steel during WWI
used in the Reichswehr until 1927 when the variant was adopted.
made in aluminium for the political/paramilitay formations in the TR era
you're right, they stopped the production around 1940.
The provision for the fork/spoon should be present on all M10

[JPhilip]

here's one M10 Bing 18 that belonged to Laurent

[Michael Kuligowski]

they stopped the production around 1940.

I recall seeing this type in late war black enameled steel - so are We positive about that production stop ?

[JPhilip]

Hello Michael,
i've seen blue and also black enameled M10 messkits in the past. I don't remember if any of the black was dated, the blue one was dated 1917. I always assumed that even non dated ones were late WWI production.
In the TR era, i have never seen them made with anything else than aluminium. Was the one you saw dated ?

around 1940 is a timeframe as the well known german manufacturers inertia may have active also for this type of messkit. Supposedly discontinued around 1940...but effectively ??

[Michael Kuligowski]

I dont remember if these messkits were dated, its been a while science I handled them, maybe You are right - maybe it was some 1918 ersatz production. I will pay closer attention to these messtins now

[JPhilip]

The german army used this pattern until the end of WWI because they had nothing else to use...it would be logical to think that it has been discontinued early in the WWII to save material and produce more M31 messkits.
Early SS troops were equipped with this aluminium M10 messkit before being equipped with M31 ones...so maybe this is what happened also for the other organisations that used the M10 pattern in alu before the war...

[MP44_tom]

JP: Thanks very much for the additional information.....

I guess I have to study some more on WW1 material

Tom
www.mp44.nl

[DieSoldat]

Tom..Very nice mess kit ..Looks like it is in almost unissued condition ..Thanks for showing it off

[pzo]

Essgeschirr

I have three of this pattern. First is made of steel, with black enamel, unmarked. Second is made of aluminium, unmarked. Both have fittings for fork and spoon. Third is made of aluminium and ESB 28 marked and dated. It does not have fittings for spoon. I also have mess tin without pan. It is HRE 36 marked and dated and also Does not have fittings for spoon.

[pzo]

Essgeschirr

Aluminium;unmarked.

[pzo]

Essgeschirr

Aluminium; ESB 28.