Strange A frame

[djpool]

last pic unless more are needed.

[Michael Kuligowski]

not for my collection Djpool - wrong fabrics.. wrong leather... wrong hardware... wrong construction.. fake ageing - 100% crap IMHO....

[DennyB]

I think it is good

I have seen some with similar construction over the years. I realize that there are a load of repros out there but just because something isn't textbook perfect doesn't make it bad. It is a shame that so many righteous items are classified as fakes nowadays because they don't meet all the criteria of the textbook items.
DennyB

[Michael Kuligowski]

I have seen some with similar construction over the years. I realize that there are a load of repros out there but just because something isn't textbook perfect doesn't make it bad. It is a shame that so many righteous items are classified as fakes nowadays because they don't meet all the criteria of the textbook items.
DennyB

I understand - there are sometimes items controversial... but - this frame doesnt meet ANY exisiting criteria... ?

[Kevin Barrett]

Frame

I like it .late war production useing whatever was available,If everything else in the group was real why would someone fake it?

[Kurland]

Hello all,
personally I don't like it. Although it doesn't look like the normal copies (with tjech webbing etc) some materials look strange, especially the straps.
Furthermore I have saved photo's from this specific frame on my pc in 2005, don't know how this influences this the story of the vet. Can't remember were these photo's came from, usually this forum or ebay.

Regards Peter

[Patrick Dempsey]

Hello all,

this frame leaves me cold also. For me personally, it is a "Frankenstein" of an item, pieced together.

Elements of the webbing trouble me greatly, it simply does not resemble anything i have encountered on web items from the period, be that frogs,"Y" straps, or other frames.

Regarding the "late war" proposition, materials suffered certainly, but in my collecting experience of later war items (44 and 45) workmanship was still of consistant quality..

Respectfully, not an item i would consider if offered.


Patrick.

[djpool]

Hello all,

this frame leaves me cold also. For me personally, it is a "Frankenstein" of an item, pieced together.

Elements of the webbing trouble me greatly, it simply does not resemble anything i have encountered on web items from the period, be that frogs,"Y" straps, or other frames.

Regarding the "late war" proposition, materials suffered certainly, but in my collecting experience of later war items (44 and 45) workmanship was still of consistant quality..

Respectfully, not an item i would consider if offered.


Patrick.

I realize that no one would accept it as original.Like I mentioned I'm not certain myself even though I'm fairly confident it came from the vets family.Whether it actually belonged to the vet or was picked up postwar I can't say. I certainly don't believe its a production piece.

My real question is: If Y straps made from British webbing were produced could other items have been made too? I certainly don't think the Brit webbing Y straps are production, but the majority of the readership believe they were made and worn by german troops.

Then of course theres the question of the webbing. Is it postwar Czech? Is it wartime Russian, U.S.,Brit, Italian? I certainly don't know.

WR Jim