For all the medical kit guys

[afrika]

OK people, you are REALLY inspiring me with all the Sani gear that is being posted lately. There is some seriously cool gear getting around. As such, I have taken a more in-depth look at the kit that I have. In particular , that hoary old chestnut, the Verbandkasten. So, what I want to know is, what is the difference between a first and second model box? I have trawled through all the old posts and read what I can, but there seems to be no reference other than mentioning the fact that there is a first and second model. Is it something to do with the ridge around the top edge of some boxes and the fact that some are flat? Is it the paint colour (green or ordnance tan) or materials used ie. wood or steel?
thanks
'Steve

[Sani]

Good question....Jan!!? Ohhh Jaaan??


Ive seen several types of verbankasten around, ranging from wood construction to the metal type ones that are more common. However having looked at my early Luftschutze verbandkasten, and compared it to some photos of mid to late war (army) ones; the only things I can really notice is that mine has 4 pins in the top of the lids construction, and that some varients seem to be without the dividers and are just the box.

Tom.

[Jan B]

Hi Steve and Tom

I think it's not possible to devide these into only 2 models. As some labels inside don't have a date, it's not easy to put an exact yof on it.

There are indeed many variants. It is interesting to see that a 42 or 43 dated verbandkasten (based on the labeldate inside) has small differences in construction in comparison with let's say a 36 dated one.

The lack of rivets/pins on the cover and around the closing-bucles, the text-style on the inside-label, the color, partial wooden interior or not, the weight,etc...all points that could indicate an early or late(r) production.

Concerning the color, some verbandkasten were overpainted in another color (mostly tan) later in war.
A thought : As these were parts of vehicles, maybe some recieved another coat when the colorsheme of the vehicle was changed as well?

Anyone has a 44 or even a 45 dated one? It would be nice to see the difference in construction in comparison with earlier ones.

Anyway, as with many fieldgear related stuff, there were differences in construction as the war proceeded (time and money saving).

Wooden ones are indeed harder to find. I have several metal ones. The only wooden one I had, I traded some time ago . I consider these to be very late production though. Also the stencils on these are rather poorly done, and often they are not painted.

Note some have the text "modell 1930" under the red cross. Again something that I never encountered on mid/late war ones .

Cheers
Jan

[afrika]

Thanks Jan, I'll look into it all a bit further.

Steve

[Jan B]

Here are some examples from my collection. All have the labels inside. If someone wants additional pictures, just ask

ps : sorry for the blurry shots, I really should invest in a good digcam

Cheers

Jan

[Jan B]

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[Jan B]

And a very salty one, I have 2 others ones which are currently stored away. I'll take pictures asap .

Cheers

Jan

[afrika]

Nice boxes Jan, whats the date on the tan one? I have a green one in that style. It has the jlm code and waffenampt, so is not too early, but has no date. The other green one I have is the flatter top style and is dated 1941 with WaA300.


If you could supply additional pics of yours, that would be great. afrika1941@optusnet.com.au

cheers,
Steve

[Jan B]

Nice boxes Jan, whats the date on the tan one? I have a green one in that style. It has the jlm code and waffenampt, so is not too early, but has no date. The other green one I have is the flatter top style and is dated 1941 with WaA300.


If you could supply additional pics of yours, that would be great. afrika1941@optusnet.com.au

cheers,
Steve

Hi Steve

The tan one has a 1942 dated label. I'll post some additional pictures (insides, labels,..) overhere when I have the other 2 before me.


Cheers

Jan

[dmie3]

Hallo Jan,
is it always so that on the "tan" coloured ones, the lettertype looks more american (letters seems interrupted) than the green/gray verbandkasten? Or has it to make with the factory where it is made or year of production ....
Thanks in advance.

[boyouLaGleize.]

Hallo Jan,
is it always so that on the "tan" coloured ones, the lettertype looks more american (letters seems interrupted) than the green/gray verbandkasten? Or has it to make with the factory where it is made or year of production ....
Thanks in advance.

I'm not Jan but I try to answer at your question.
You have a lot of different kind of marking.

[Jan B]

I'm not Jan but I try to answer at your question.
You have a lot of different kind of marking.

A picture says more then thousand words!

Thanks Fred!

This is an old thread, and in the meantime I got several other ones, both wooden, panzerholz and steel versions. Will post some more of them.


Regards
Jan

[stroh]

Here is my contribution. The first verbandasten has been shown before. It is 1938 dated with a WaA under the handle. It has the wood panels rivited to the sides.

[stroh]

This one is not dated. It exhibits characteristics of what I would consider to be a mid war case. Wood panels are no longer used.