SS Tunic Question

[galizien41]

I think they are just common soiled supply boards.

Interesting Staff of RF-SS piped straps.

Ian

[BenVK]

Every day, the same old question, are the insignia originally sewn to the tunic?
90% of the time, no, it is not.

[phild]

Every day, the same old question, are the insignia originally sewn to the tunic?
90% of the time, no, it is not.

For me that has always been the question when looking at any tunic, particularly an SS Officers. The problem is how anyone can say for certain when only looking at photos is beyond me. Saying tabs are not the only set to have ever been on a tunic is one thing, saying for sure they are post war sewn is quite another. It’s “drive by” authentication.

As a slight aside one should consider statistically perhaps 75% or more of the existing original Major rank tunics had the boards (SS and LW also tabs) replaced DURING the war.

Unless the insignia is fake or something very egregious in workmanship can be seen in photos, opinions are worth no more than being paid for them....nothing.

[BenVK]

I guess the reason why there are so many discussions about re-sewn insignia is because there's not much else to talk about if the base tunic and insignia are authentic.

Well, not much else apart from the price/value.

[clairors]

One of the reasons for the initial post was the price and the look of the sewning of the insignia. I was also surprised that the seller did not list it as resewn. From the reviews on the forum I could not find any negative comments on the site. He seems to have some very nice items for sale and not disclosing resewn insignia seems to be somewhat dishonest in my opinion when it appears that this is clearly the case.

[david]

One of the reasons for the initial post was the price and the look of the sewning of the insignia. I was also surprised that the seller did not list it as resewn. From the reviews on the forum I could not find any negative comments on the site. He seems to have some very nice items for sale and not disclosing resewn insignia seems to be somewhat dishonest in my opinion when it appears that this is clearly the case.

The seller does say a very hansome assemble that does mean resewn insignia

[AntiqueWW2]

Handsome Assemble means handsome Assemble and nothing else. He is a Dealer like any other, with the same crap Tricks as any other....who Trust blind a Dealer is in the wrong Hobby. Know your Stuff then go and buy or ask for Help, that is all there is to do. When you stick to this....your Wallet will be a lot more Happy.

The seller does say a very hansome assemble that does mean resewn insignia

[viva_giulio]

Price and ensemble tell all.
But Santa Claus is coming and "untouched" believer will be happy.

I would see the collections of people who doesn't like restored tunic.
And how much pay to believe.

[AntiqueWW2]

There is a difference between build and restored. I have absolut no Issue with an restored Tunic, what as i already many Times wrote, 98% of any SS Tunics so or so are. Important is that you are able to tell what it once was, at last to me that is important. I have serveral restored SS Tunics, NAMED what where stripped at the End of the War, and i got them stripped. So i put the Insignias back on what belong to it, right Rank, right Cuff, right Boards. At the Moment i have a SS White Summer Officer Tunic, stripped but i know what it once was, so i restore it back to that. A build Tunic is to me a total different Story...you have no Idea what it once was, no name no nothing. So you choose a Cuff you like, boards you like...and build yourself a Tunic. Something like that, i would never touch, it has no Soul and give me personal no Joy when i look at it. To me this will never be worth a Cent more then the Parts. And beside restored and build, are the real untouched Tunics. And for something like this, i am always willing to pay double if i have too, when it comes with the right proof....Picture from it in wear ect.

Price and ensemble tell all.
But Santa Claus is coming and "untouched" believer will be happy.

I would see the collections of people who doesn't like restored tunic.
And how much pay to believe.

[phild]

One of the reasons for the initial post was the price and the look of the sewning of the insignia. I was also surprised that the seller did not list it as resewn. From the reviews on the forum I could not find any negative comments on the site. He seems to have some very nice items for sale and not disclosing resewn insignia seems to be somewhat dishonest in my opinion when it appears that this is clearly the case.

While I’m not a “believer” in this tunic at least in the blind sense, I do wonder at this point where in the above posts it was hard determined that the insignia is not original period sewn? I will go back through all the posts again to try and find that silver bullet insight.

For instance, I can not determine when this officer was promoted to 1st Lt, but I know that he still was one in July 43 (at age 53!!) when awarded the DKG. He was a Major by Jan 44 making him maybe the shortest serving Capt in history!😏
If he was not promoted to 1 lt until say 1939 or 40 that alone would explain the resewn rank tab and possibly the Runes tab.