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    #16
    90th Light, your inbox is full!

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      #17
      I don't like any of them . . . especially the silk thread type.
      The issue you have here is once bought you try and sell it on . . . ?
      Regards David

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        #18
        Originally posted by Stossgruppe3 View Post
        I don't like any of them . . . especially the silk thread type.
        The issue you have here is once bought you try and sell it on . . . ?
        Regards David

        Fred Green had no trouble selling the example shown in post number 11 on the estand David, it sold fast.

        However, that is not the point of this thread. The SS officer eagle which started this thread is not for sale.

        The NSDAP Stellungsbau items that I have shown are not for sale.

        The reason for me is simple, where can I buy more ? I know the history of those NSDAP Stellungsbau cufftitle and eagles. I know where they came from and who brought them back. For me this is a fascinating time in the history of the New Zealand Army. A time when they came up against Waffen SS, SS Police, Italian SS and Quasi-SS. Real history and evidence of units in Northern Italy and Slovenia in 1945. A time when the 2NZEF was at one of its bests/ biggest. Thus given the job as a full strength armored mobile unit of stopping the Communist advance into Trieste.

        NSDAP Stellungsbau cufftitles are one of the rarest and ugliest Third Reich cuff-titles that there is. But a type not unheard of, the Herman Goring division for example had a type made like that.

        Any way coming back to the SS officer sleeve eagle in post number 1. My friend knows where and when he got it. It is not mine so I have no history of it. He asked me to post it here in the hope someone has another like it, or knows specifically which SS unit wore eagles made like that,

        Chris

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          #19
          And well I am on the subject of ugly and rare cuff-titles. Here are a couple of oddities that also turned up.

          The "29" cuff-title is a silk thread type. Both the numbers and borders to the edge are white/ cream silk. Seemingly identified as a very rare and early Allgemeine SS C-T here on WAF in a thread similar to this one

          But the lower one is the ugliest and worst SS cuff-title I have ever held in my hands. One can only describe it as field made and non-official. God knows which SS unit or Quasi unit ever wore that ???

          Chris
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            #20
            Here is a Dutch made cap. I think the thread starter eagle comes from the same region. The unique cord of the SS chest and Heer wings is quite distinctive. Anyway, you can tell your friend that there is one person who likes it, and if he ever wants to sell it!

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              #21
              I like the eagle and also think it's from the low countries.

              http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=488700
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                #22
                Thanks Ben- that's the photo I had intended to post!

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                  #23
                  Thanks Ben and darekm,

                  for posting that image and sharing your experience with eagles made in the low countries. It makes a lot of sense and I can see similarities in how the threads are hand embroidered when compared with the SS eagle in post number 1,

                  Chris

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                    #24
                    I've been wondering whether using an orange backing fabric is a not too subtle "screw you!" from a Dutch embroiderer to the Germans!

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by 90th Light View Post
                      But the lower one is the ugliest and worst SS cuff-title I have ever held in my hands. One can only describe it as field made and non-official. God knows which SS unit or Quasi unit ever wore that ???

                      Chris
                      Reminds me of this cufftitle. Similar.

                      https://www.ratisbons.com/auctions-a...f-einsatz.html

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by Christian J View Post
                        Reminds me of this cufftitle. Similar.

                        https://www.ratisbons.com/auctions-a...f-einsatz.html
                        Yes it does.

                        I may as well add the image in case it disappears into the future.

                        Many thanks for posting it,

                        Chris
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                          #27
                          There is nothing what didn't exist back then, Ton of Items where made outside of Germany. How should an Italian, French or Netherland Tailor or Worker who made these Items got anywhere near to what some here call Textbook. Textbook is for People who want to play it safe, but that should not be the turn down for everything else. I personal love that kind of Stuff.
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                            #28
                            Check out the groovy Italian made (Wehrmacht) eagle in this thread:

                            http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru....php?t=1027115

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                              #29
                              Looks like an Italian made eagle to me. It's always funny watching the "textbook" guys make comments. If this was a Heer eagle everyone would agree, it's original.

                              Blaine

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by AntiqueWW2 View Post
                                There is nothing what didn't exist back then, Ton of Items where made outside of Germany. How should an Italian, French or Netherland Tailor or Worker who made these Items got anywhere near to what some here call Textbook. Textbook is for People who want to play it safe, but that should not be the turn down for everything else. I personal love that kind of Stuff.
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