Was just wondering if the SS got much use out of foreign uniform items like Dutch/Czech/Austrian caps/ tunics/trousers, or did most of it end up in the hands of the Wehrmacht?
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Commenting because i wonder the same. -
never say never!,,but..
- I'd say the number 1 user was Wehrmacht. Labor, Police, Luft also used but many without proper insignia..Comment
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The 12th SS in Normandy was known to use Italian camoComment
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There's a reminiscence from a volunteer in the 25th Division Hunyadi, where he is stating that he was equipped with "a german cap and pants, belgian tunic, french greatcoat, yugoslavian belt, and finnish boots"in January '45 at Neuhammer.
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That is interesting!Originally posted by J. Csernus View PostThere's a reminiscence from a volunteer in the 25th Division Hunyadi, where he is stating that he was equipped with "a german cap and pants, belgian tunic, french greatcoat, yugoslavian belt, and finnish boots"in January '45 at Neuhammer.Comment
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Lots of W-SS units were issued clothing made from M33 Italian camo pattern material ... not Italian uniforms. The LAH and HJ happen to have been the most photographed units at the time and so we see them 'modelling' these garments more than most.Originally posted by Airdale View Post
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WH definately used all sort captured uniforms, but never seen any in wss use.
Definately italian units of WSS were using italian tunics. Don't know if any other units of wss were using captured uniforms.
Know that a lot of captured equipment was used by wss (like italian messkits, boots, blankets, camo cloth ), but never seen a photos showing usage of capture uniforms ( except for mentioned italian uiforms in use of italian wss unit ).Comment
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I definately recall seeing a Dutch tunic re-tailored to be re-used by a W-SS officer. It was posted on here some years ago ... maybe by Nick Groeters ?Originally posted by anmarlodz View Post
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Nick G could probably answer this question in depth more than anyone on the forum.Comment
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I wonder how he knew?Originally posted by J. Csernus View PostThere's a reminiscence from a volunteer in the 25th Division Hunyadi, where he is stating that he was equipped with "a german cap and pants, belgian tunic, french greatcoat, yugoslavian belt, and finnish boots"in January '45 at Neuhammer.
The stamps don’t necessarily give away the country of manufacturer and if I was a Hungarian man in 1945 I doubt my knowledge would be enough to identify the various uniforms origins.Comment
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Agreed.Originally posted by chrischa View Post
There was a thread already which showed a photo with a Dutch re - issue tunic being worn by an SS volunteer.Comment
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I would expect there were lots of cases of foreign uniform articles being reissued, retailored, and rebadged for use with W-SS personnel, especially any of the units that had substantial foreign contingents, which was a lot of them.
The problem though, from a collecting viewpoint, is 100% will get dumped on as being fake by pretty much everyone.
I can't say I have a solution for that other than make sure you are happy with the items you buy, cuz there's always a chance that nobody else would be.Comment
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There are two types of collectors ...Originally posted by Chad1 View Post
The Hoover This one collects everything there is around them no-matter how good, bad or downright ugly it may be. Collecting for the here and now and screw the consequences. All well and good until the day comes when their collecting focus changes and they wish to cash it in and they try to convince others what they have conned themselves into believing
The Consensus Collector They buy textbook, approved, safe items. (whether for financial investment reasons or, like me, they are aware that a relative may have to sell their collection on again in the non too distant future) I have an occasional evening with a very large JD on the rocks when I sit and enjoy my collection (medals, ribbon bars and 1 sword) ... a single questionable piece would completely ruin that for me.
As I've said before the actual 'value' of a piece is market value divided by the number of excuses you have to make for it.
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Indeed...I posted it last July...Originally posted by paul.j View Post
Ukrainian (Galician Div) SS volunteers including a member with a converted Dutch tunic!
Also note the black backed M43 trapezoid cap insignia and some wearing the Galician lion tab.Comment
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