Research Soviet Film Studio Markings with regards to Pink Smocks

[RobertE]

A little early for sarcasm, Owen, even for you.

Try this: Here are the pockets in an original SS pattern anorak, FOREIGN made in Norway. Thin material, and doubt you could find anything to match it either - and I've got shirts, pants, socks, sweaters, overgarments, and field gear. No matches.

Compare it to the original SS third pattern anorak using the German mouse grey or the captured Italian camo outer shell: thick wool on one side, and animal hide with the fur out on the other.

Totally different. My point? The SS anorak with the thin pocket material is FOREIGN MADE.

s/f Robert

[RobertE]

It isn't trying to match a collector-determined mark of originality that would be developed 70 years later.

s/f Robert

[kammo man]

Here's my one in full sunlight on unissued jacket


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[nutmeg]

Could we see the whole thing? Is that an oakleaf like mine?

[kammo man]

Here you go. Even if slightly different , how do you make the case this is postwar HBT ? The brick material might be a touch fuzzier from being washed but otherwise it's pretty darn close.

Still interested in seeing a whole picture your regular smock with the studio markings.

But not the same.
Same is slam dunk.

Remember when I posted all the pockets from numerous different jackets and they were all the same.
Thats the slam dunk.
Its just one of the small consistencies over several manufacturing years that holds up with war time jackets.


Are you good with photoshop ?

You can add my stamp to your ones side by side and view them together,
Might be fun to see that.

[kammo man]

It isn't trying to match a collector-determined mark of originality that would be developed 70 years later.

s/f Robert

You do know you are showing SS single sided produced printed cloth.

[nutmeg]

I can do that. Have to go out for a while, later tonight.

[kammo man]

Could we see the whole thing? Is that an oakleaf like mine?

Oak leaf ?


What are you asking

[kammo man]

I can do that. Have to go out for a while, later tonight.

Add the red and green stamps.

[RobertE]

While we are discussing these foreign-made SS camouflage garments, it may help to illuminate how they can vary from their German-made counterparts.

- The Norwegian model (NM) has a detachable hood; German versions permanently attached hoods (pretty big difference)
- NM are made of several types of thinner material than standard SS camo fabric, and have a waterproofing treatment like unissued original camo fabric
(some Norwegian collectors also claim the material is completely different in width and repeat pattern)
- They lack any stamped markings, size or otherwise
- The NM uses a mix of recycled, heavily used buttons and new buttons

The last point in particularly relevant: in the only other piece of confirmed, foreign-made SS camo outergarment, used and new buttons are used side by side at the factory. The brick smock, which I suggest is also foreign made, also has a mix of new and recycled buttons.

No, not a smoking gun by any means, points to be considered. Foreign-made is not even close to German-made.

s/f /Robert

[RobertE]

You do know you are showing SS single sided produced printed cloth.

No, it isn't. And you should know that. Can you concede that thin-material pockets (foreign-made) and different than thick wool and fur types (German-made)? Both in the same garment type?

s/f Robert

[kammo man]

It is.
You should know that.

[RobertE]

Since we can't agree on the first point, let's move to the other point.

Can you agree that the foreign-made pockets are totally different than German-made ones?

s/f Robert

[kammo man]

Here's the German produced grey to white printed fabric in a Beta Ra produced dot tunic


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[kammo man]

And yet more in maker 117 dot jump smock

You jacket is clearly made from imposted SS cloth,


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