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    #16
    SS Alpenland

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      #17
      Elbe

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        #18
        On the Allgemeine SS , there are some major misconceptions in the list to begin with . You cannot simply copy every CT name that you find , without some understanding of the organization .

        For instance , there cannot be such thing as a CT for " SS-Oberabschnitt XXIX " ;

        Oberabschnitte and their cufftitles were named = Elbe , Nord , Nordwest , Fulda Werra , etc.
        These were divided in Abschnitte with Roman numerals - I to XXXXV , all exist as cufftitles for their staff .

        And all of them had their own medical department , so there is a CT for Abschnitt " San. Abt. XXXXIII " and Oberabschnitt " San. Abt. Ost " , etc. etc. etc.

        There is also a good amount of special martyr names that were worn , so the " Allgemeine " cufftitles by themselves would probably already outnumber your initial list .

        But I do appreciate the initiative , and I like the subject, so I will be sure to add some more ..
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        Last edited by Winkelman; 05-02-2016, 09:51 PM.

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          #19
          This one happens to be mine , but I am still looking for pictures of all of the other numbers that were made ..
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            #20
            A regular Allgemeine member would have an Arabic numeral on his CT for his Sturm = company , but the early ones also have coloured borders for Sturmbanne .

            Then of course there was reserve , but also martyrs , and things start to get complicated ..
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              #21
              Enough of these , there are obviously far more variations worn by the Allgemeine than in Waffen-SS cufftitles .
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                #22
                Originally posted by FrenchVolunteer View Post
                Hi,

                Other known cuff titles, some may be unofficial or temporary ones :

                @ for the SS-Freiwilligen-Legion « Niederlande »
                Legioen Nederland
                Frw. Legion Nederland
                Legion Niederlande

                @ for the Germaansche SS in Nederland
                Germanische SS Niederlande
                Germ. SS Nederland

                See You

                Vince
                Vince , I do not know you personally , I have come to respect your opinions given here very much .
                But now I will have to correct the info , for future reference >>

                Germanische SS Niederlande
                Germ. SS Nederland

                these are both certified 100% fantasy fabrication nonsense -
                I know the very picture that LUC showed a long time ago of course , but many of the CT's shown in that picture were exactly that = early fakes / fantasies .. !

                Because de Nederlandse SS , later Germaanse SS , never wore anything else but an empty cufftitle .. !!

                I personally happen to know the person who had these fantasy items ordered , so please let this info be passed on to future generations .
                Too much false info is now already absorbed on the internet , by a younger generation of collectors , who are satisfied with a 30 second search on Google .

                On the Dutch Legion :

                The very first CT worn , locally made , had the crude wording

                " LEGION NIEDERLANDE " .

                In the follow-up German made RZM cufftitles the words first changed to

                " FRW. LEGION NIEDERLANDE " ,

                then to

                " FRW. LEGION NEDERLAND " .
                Last edited by Winkelman; 05-02-2016, 11:22 PM.

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                  #23
                  Also mentioned in the list are :

                  " Lijfwacht v.d. Leider " + " Vendel Dietschland " - these are Dutch NSB / WA cufftitles , and they have nothing to do with the SS .

                  But maybe you could add the existing " SS Nachrichtensturmbann " , " SS-Panzerabwehr " and " Umsiedlungskommando " instead ..

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                    #24
                    Danish Schalburg and all the under-divisions.

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                      #25
                      Sturmbann Nuremberg wore wore blank title, same like SD personal.

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                        #26
                        Think we going step by step. I worked it over and put it in aphabetic order.
                        Below I put the new ones.
                        Please feel free to give more information and pictures.
                        Thanks so far,
                        Regards
                        Sascha


                        83
                        "30. Januar"
                        Artur Phleps
                        British Free Corps
                        Charlemagne
                        Danmark
                        Das Reich
                        De Ruiter
                        Der Führer
                        Deutschland
                        Dirlewanger
                        ESS/TV
                        Finnisches Frw. Bataillon
                        Florian Geyer
                        Freikorps Danmark
                        Frundsberg
                        Frw. Legion Flandern
                        Frw. Legion Niederlande
                        Frw. Legion Norwegen
                        Galizien
                        General Seyffardt
                        Germania
                        Germanske SS Norge
                        Götz von Berlichingen
                        Handschar
                        Hermann von Salza
                        Hinrich Schuldt
                        Hitlerjugend
                        Hohenstaufen
                        Horst Wessel
                        Italien
                        Julius Schreck
                        Kaminski
                        Kurt Eggers
                        KZL der SS
                        Landstorm Nederland
                        Landwacht
                        Langemark
                        Lattvija
                        Leibstandarte Adolf Hitler
                        Lett.SS-Frw.Div.
                        Maria Theresa
                        Michael Gaißmair
                        Nederland
                        Nibelungen
                        Nord
                        Nordland
                        Nordost
                        Nordwest
                        Norge
                        Oberbayern
                        Ostmark
                        Osttürkischer Waffen-Verband der SS
                        Planetta
                        Prinz Eugen
                        Reichsführer-SS
                        Reichsführung SS
                        Reichsschule SS
                        Reinhard Heydrich
                        San.-Abt.XVII
                        San.-Abt.XX
                        Sanitätsabteilung
                        Skanderberg
                        SS
                        SS Kavallerie Division
                        SS Kavallerie Division
                        SS Musikschule Braunschweig
                        SS Polizei
                        SS-Pioniersturmbann
                        SS-Ärztliche Akademie
                        SS-Baueinsatz-Ost
                        SS-Fallschirmjäger
                        SS-Feldgendarmerie
                        SS-Haupthelfer
                        SS-Heimwehr Danzig
                        SS-Helferin
                        SS-Hpt.-Reitschule München
                        SS-Inspektion
                        SS-KB-Abt
                        SS-Kriegsberichter
                        SS-Nachrichtensturmbann
                        SS-Polizei-Division
                        SS-Postschutz
                        SS-Sammelstelle
                        SS-Schule Braunschweig
                        SS-Schule Oberehnheim
                        SS-Schule Tölz
                        SS-Sturm 10
                        SS-Sturm 11
                        SS-Sturm 2
                        SS-Sturm 3
                        SS-Sturm 6
                        SS-Sturm 7
                        SS-Totenkopfverbände
                        SS-Übungslager Dachau
                        SS-Unterführerschule
                        SS-Verwaltungsschule
                        SS-Wachbatallion Oslo
                        Sturmbann Nürnberg
                        Theodor Eicke
                        Thule
                        Thüringen
                        Totenkopf
                        Valdemar Veiss
                        Vlaanderen-Korps
                        W.B.Dachau
                        Wallonien
                        Westland
                        Wiking

                        New from members !

                        RFSS
                        12
                        5
                        49
                        SS-Reserve-Stürme
                        7
                        2
                        Landwacht
                        1
                        Legioen Nederland
                        Frw. Legion Nederland
                        Legion Niederlande
                        Germanische SS Niederlande
                        Germ. SS Nederland
                        Sachsen
                        Inspekteur der SS Reitschulen
                        Estland
                        Röntgensturmbann
                        Den Norske Legion
                        SS-Panzergrenadier
                        Nibelungen
                        Ostland
                        Ostfriesland
                        SS Alpenland
                        Elbe
                        Reserve
                        Reserve 1
                        Reserve 2
                        Reserve 4
                        8 Martens
                        10 Ludwig Frisch
                        10 Carl Lafore
                        5 Hellinger
                        Seidel Ditmarsch
                        1 Radke
                        Gerhard Landmann
                        Alfred Jom…
                        Karl Ross
                        SS Panzerabwehr
                        Umsiedlungskommando
                        Danish Schalburg

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                          #27
                          You still have the 100% undocumented SS Wachbatallion Oslo on your list.

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by Hilton View Post
                            You still have the 100% undocumented SS Wachbatallion Oslo on your list.
                            Well I misunderstood you, thought Norwegen was wrong and oslo was OK.
                            Will change that.
                            Regards
                            Sascha

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                              #29
                              How about these?

                              http://www.germanmilitaria.com/Waffe...s/S018863.html

                              And

                              Grenz polizei , Rhein
                              Last edited by Kurt Meyer; 05-03-2016, 12:04 PM.

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by Winkelman View Post
                                But now I will have to correct the info , for future reference >>

                                Germanische SS Niederlande
                                Germ. SS Nederland


                                these are both certified 100% fantasy fabrication nonsense -
                                I know the very picture that LUC showed a long time ago of course , but many of the CT's shown in that picture were exactly that = early fakes / fantasies .. !

                                Because de Nederlandse SS , later Germaanse SS , never wore anything else but an empty cufftitle .. !!

                                I personally happen to know the person who had these fantasy items ordered , so please let this info be passed on to future generations .
                                Winkelman is right in above written story about the fantasy items made back in the day. Those two should be removed from your list.

                                Regards, Jim

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