Camo coming from Lorenzo? Post it here!

[kammo man]

I gived the answer Daniel, I NEVER OFFERED covers to Owen, more clear of this...in wich language you want I write this?

That is a complete LIE.


This is how I personally pinned the FAKE covers coming from you Lorenzo.


owen

[Fritz]

Besides, all of his caps, that, as Peter mentioned, came from a seemingly endless supply, all had the same funky grommets.

Of what has been published thus far the fabric's texture flow is the ultimate evidence - once you care to understand its meaning.

Cheers

[kammo man]

Here are pic of two items I bought of Lorenzo directly in 2005 or 2006.

I bought twocaps and one cover and was later offered more, but did never buy any more then these as Lorenzo seemed to have a unlimited supply of camo caps and covers. I was also offered a SS panzer combi which have been talked about Before here in this thread, but was adviced it was a reproduction by several collectors. It was later sold to a German dealers who sold it to a collector.

I have no idea where these items was sold as it is almost 10 years since we sold them, and we have no archives about it anymore. But if the person who bought these from see this thread and recognize any item please contact me so we can sort the problem out!

It seems moderator Jeff is removing more or less all posts in this matter so it is hard having a discussion about these.

But since I have posted these which i bought directly from Lorenzo, I presume I am allowed also to elaborate why I Think they are not originals.

Before I do i would like moderator Jeff to confirm that.


Peter

here first pic of a cover

100% fake helmet coverz

[Peter v L]

Of course Peter you can discuss the items and why you believe they are not original. There is to be no personal attacks, something I am sure you would appreciate being a dealer. Posts that are nothing but personal attacks will be deleted.

Thank you Jeff!

Peter

[Fritz]

That is a complete LIE.


This is how I personally pinned the FAKE covers coming from you Lorenzo.


owen

I can confirm that Owen told me about this and the circumstances by phone right after they took place.

[Daniel.S]

What is strange? you dont belive? I have hundreds of pictures of uniforms found in Prato at the golden times in this condition with full insigna, , unfortunately are not mine, but reside and sleeping in a well know collection in Italy.

The Der fuhrer was found in in a red cross bag in austria, have you already forgot you wrote that?

The other one in Prato, also in a red cross bag.

Im sure there were many tunics found there, i just dont belivie the above tunics were found there.

They are original yes.....but no der fuhrer or galizien soldier wore them imo.

Edit: The funny thing is, when i got a lot of flak when i called the story bull**** a few years ago here on the forum , the only PMs i got was from Italian collectors telling me to calm down and that i was right.

[kammo man]

Caps

100% fake cap.

[Peter v L]

Here is a posting regarding to the items I have posted
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This is to explain the problem a bit better. Think of this as a piece of fabric in a wartime factory. The section in the circle is the texture of the fabric or the way the "weave flows".

Section A shows how the material would have been cut correctly. Section B the incorrect way in which the italian covers were cut.

NOTE: Many of the italian covers show an incorrect cut only in the centre section, or the spring tunnels or side section or front rim, sleeve. Others in a combination of parts.

An original wartime cover will NOT - in no part!

[Disco Partisan]

Pay attention to fabric's texture flow in all closeups of caps. It is incorrect.

Nothing significant there as your "Diagonal vs horizontal fabrics weave flow" theory failed because we see both "texture flow" on originals

[Fritz]

Nothing significant there as your "Diagonal vs horizontal fabrics weave flow" theory failed because we see both "texture flow" on originals

Well," ACHTUNG ", if you still believe this I cannot help you.

[kammo man]

Here is a posting regarding to the items I have posted
_________________

This is to explain the problem a bit better. Think of this as a piece of fabric in a wartime factory. The section in the circle is the texture of the fabric or the way the "weave flows".

Section A shows how the material would have been cut correctly. Section B the incorrect way in which the italian covers were cut.

NOTE: Many of the italian covers show an incorrect cut only in the centre section, or the spring tunnels or side section or front rim, sleeve. Others in a combination of parts.

An original wartime cover will NOT - in no part!

What a drawing !
That would make a great SOS print for a t-shirt.

[Fritz]

Nothing significant there as your "Diagonal vs horizontal fabrics weave flow" theory failed because we see both "texture flow" on originals

Just one more tip: Don't let him fool you. Care to look at originals and not only at angled focusses? Do so, you'll be surprised.

[Peter v L]

Drawing no 2

[kammo man]

I can confirm that Owen told me about this and the circumstances by phone right after they took place.

Thats right Fritz,we spoke on the phone long distance for more than an hour putting the fake helmet cover story facts together.
This was only a few days after I got back to LA from the SOS the last time I met Lorenzo at the show.

[Fritz]

That's how Kombis were made....in italy!