Ss camo 43 reversible

[LOTHRINGEN]

I found an original one last year ... This one is definitly a fake !

[PaulMann]

What's to be impressed about ?

Used zelt cloth
New stitching.

No wear at all.


UFO cap X files style.

The repro cap w/coa is the thing that is unimpressive.
,,As previously mentioned, no wear, new stitching etc.

cheers,
Pauli

[blamers]

Hmmm

I know all the feed Helmut is giving in "original with papers" means nothing at all, he is pumping up everything to sell, selling generals uniforms as real from estate and so on , putting effects on a uniform, selling crap, and crap storys, but I really like this cap. It's made like pictures I've seen in the Beaver books, so IMO original..., but the grommets are strange indeed. Construction looks ok. I respect other meanings here.But in 1944 al materials were used to make stuff because of scarse materials left end of war. But he can return his cap to our big friend HELMUT WEITZE, Together with the certificate and ask his money back.He really does without any problem.That's a +.
Beware this german dealer , he rips you off , and before you notice he is making his day....
We need another Beaver book with only caps..would be very nice this complex knowledge...

[Marflower]

We should be grateful that there are members like Owen/Kammo man that are prepared to let us have the benefit of their extensive knowledge. The rest of us wisely hold back until he has given his opinion, before pouring forth with our comments. However, I feel that the attack on Weitze is a little concerning. Is there definite proof of the fact that he acts in an underhand way? It is quite an accusation levelled at him, which could affect his lively hood. I have seen him praised in other forums, for his professional manner. He is offering a lifetime guarantee, which, as long as he honours it, must mean that you can buy from him without fear. Something that a lot of other dealers are usually reticent to do, as so much that is bought is then assessed on the forum. Has he made a genuine mistake in the case of his cap, or can you be sure he is trying to pass off a copy as original?
Please note that I don't know him and have only bought a couple of cufftitles from him in the past. I am only concerned at bashing people without them being able to defend themselves.
Must be the festive season. In the meantime, Merry Xmas to all.
Regards
John

[brooksbz]

I wasn't going to weigh but I will say what I know. I am not a customer of Weitze, but I know he his held in high regard by old time dealers. Everyone makes mistakes but I don't believe his reputation should be questioned because of this cap. Owen has his opinion. Others may differ. You can draw your own conclusions.

[blamers]

Hemut Weitze

To all here,


We know from before he was putting a generals uniform together with original emblems offered two years before he was selling a generals jacket...
Original from family with all effects on this jacket......real estate find (?)
Some real smart guys here discovered that the collar tabs from this "General" jacket were the same as offered 2 years before.
With exactly the same moth damage...

So, I'm really asking what do you know about Weitze??

In my opnion the cap is very nice and original, as I mentioned before. IMO.

The only positive thing about that is you can send it back , and get back your money.Guaranteed. that's a + as again did mentioned before.

That's all.


Beware this dealer, and others.

He is telling stories you want to believe for sure.
And sell......

[blamers]

Cufftitles..

I'm curious abou the cufftitels you own, can you please post them here, would be a very nice thread..
I like cuffs..

We should be grateful that there are members like Owen/Kammo man that are prepared to let us have the benefit of their extensive knowledge. The rest of us wisely hold back until he has given his opinion, before pouring forth with our comments. However, I feel that the attack on Weitze is a little concerning. Is there definite proof of the fact that he acts in an underhand way? It is quite an accusation levelled at him, which could affect his lively hood. I have seen him praised in other forums, for his professional manner. He is offering a lifetime guarantee, which, as long as he honours it, must mean that you can buy from him without fear. Something that a lot of other dealers are usually reticent to do, as so much that is bought is then assessed on the forum. Has he made a genuine mistake in the case of his cap, or can you be sure he is trying to pass off a copy as original?
Please note that I don't know him and have only bought a couple of cufftitles from him in the past. I am only concerned at bashing people without them being able to defend themselves.
Must be the festive season. In the meantime, Merry Xmas to all.
Regards
John

[Marflower]

Hiya.
Will post them. But one is Hermann Göring Division and the other is SS, so will have to post them in seperate sections of the forum.
Regards
John

[Marflower]

Also, I wasn't aware of the General's uniform. That is damning. Although he may have sold the collars to a collector and later bought the uniform and story from them. It wouldn't be the first time a collector embellishes an item. I have been caught out more often by collectors than dealers and it is much harder to get your money back from them. I doubt a dealer pours as much time over items, as the people on this forum. He may not have recognised it.
It seems just injustifiable that a dealer, with a stock such as Weitze, would gamble his reputation on a few ropey items. Once you lose your reputation, it is very difficult to build it back. Mind you, there seem to be a lot of dealers who don't seem to care.
Regards
John

[blamers]

Sold collars , and later buy this complete jacket??

It's a definately NO, that he sold this collars , and buy this jacket from family as he did explain by the jacket.

Helmut is a very, very smart guy, you can't think about him that he doesn't know, because he knows his stuff.
But some eagles here , have some very good eagle eyess he missing. The "smarter" guys here on this forum. Thanks God.
Also what he sellled before,
The only , and only positive by Helmut is your money back guarantee., That's for sure.
But I really don't believe any stories he is making on his stuff IMO.
I was making business with him for years,,untill...


Once caught on compilations from stuff reminds me forever.


Anyhow, some things may be correct. Indeed. But all this stories...Hmmm


Like what you like , and do what you wanna do.

It's your own thing.
All we have to learn here.

But we are glad with this forum, trying to helping all of us.
Remember.

Also, I wasn't aware of the General's uniform. That is damning. Although he may have sold the collars to a collector and later bought the uniform and story from them. It wouldn't be the first time a collector embellishes an item. I have been caught out more often by collectors than dealers and it is much harder to get your money back from them. I doubt a dealer pours as much time over items, as the people on this forum. He may not have recognised it.
It seems just injustifiable that a dealer, with a stock such as Weitze, would gamble his reputation on a few ropey items. Once you lose your reputation, it is very difficult to build it back. Mind you, there seem to be a lot of dealers who don't seem to care.
Regards
John

[blamers]

Sold collars , and later buy this complete jacket??

It's a definately NO, that he sold this collars , and buy this jacket from family as he did explain by the jacket.

Helmut is a very, very smart guy, you can't think about him that he doesn't know, because he knows his stuff.,also what he selled before.
But some here do have real Eagle eyes he is missing , and are smarter then he is.
It's a tricky world out there.

The only , and only positive by Helmut is your money back guarantee., That's for sure.
But I really don't believe any stories he is making on his stuff IMO.


Once caught on compilations from stuff combined together reminds me forever.


Anyhow, some things may be correct. Indeed. But all this stories...Hmmm


Like what you like , and do what you wanna do.

It's your own thing.

But we are glad with this forum, trying to helping all of us.
Remember.

Also, I wasn't aware of the General's uniform. That is damning. Although he may have sold the collars to a collector and later bought the uniform and story from them. It wouldn't be the first time a collector embellishes an item. I have been caught out more often by collectors than dealers and it is much harder to get your money back from them. I doubt a dealer pours as much time over items, as the people on this forum. He may not have recognised it.
It seems just injustifiable that a dealer, with a stock such as Weitze, would gamble his reputation on a few ropey items. Once you lose your reputation, it is very difficult to build it back. Mind you, there seem to be a lot of dealers who don't seem to care.
Regards
John

[Marflower]

Fair point.
Cheers

[90th Light]

Interesting comparison with the grommets in a 1944 dated billed tropical cap,

Chris

[90th Light]

Herman Meyer caps also have this type of grommet,

Chris

[Fritz]

The cap that started the thread is a fake. It originates from the same source as the fake "italian" covers, - "italian" caps so to speak.

Cheers