SS Junkerschool braunschweig promotion badge

[Kanalhose]

Here is something similar, 5.5cm diameter, if anybody has Villach items from the TR contact me as I collect them. I do not know if this one is bakelite or plastic, sorry for the out of focus picture. I know bakelite is wood-based and plastic petroleum-based.

pure fantasy plastic part C-R-A-P

[The Red Baron]

I'm not sure why one would ask for opinions and then be upset when opinions are given.................this hobby!

[Kanalhose]

I'm not sure why one would ask for opinions and then be upset when opinions are given.................this hobby!

I'm not upset, what are you doing strengthen your observation ... if my badge is a fake, it must also be the other, right?

exactly the same laser tracks and style;-) ... I have submitted Macro images of the surface, not one of the heroes who have written "laser" expressed its opinion!

I have not read a single well-founded and conclusive statement here
which could prove to me credible, that it is a bit to May 1945 ...

[FrenchVolunteer]

Hi,

I have not read a single well-founded and conclusive statement here
which could prove to me credible, that it is a bit to May 1945 ...

YOU have to PROVE that this is pre-1945, and to date you proved NOTHING, NADA, RIEN.
Give us pictures, documents from the SS archives about the recruitment campaigns, confirmed artefacts from museum etc etc.

We don't care that this is bakelite (i can give you link for dozen of european factories that can do them), we don't care about your "close shots" of the details, this prove NOTHING. I can scan you on 2400 dpi an SS-Germanische Leistungsrune in gold, this will stay a CRAP.

Therefore, like in real science, without ANY PROOF your CRAP is C-R-A-P.
Period, stop losing our time.
Your "Loch Ness item" is like the monster, it don't exist.

I gave you enough detailed infos that this was a fantasy item, it is not known that the SS made any stuff like that since 1933 ! The SS did some tinnies, but it was not like this ridiculous "POG" !
The various recruitment campaign by the SS NEVER had any crap like that, i provided the local and ultra rare specific propaganda documents made by the SS School Braunschweig.

Your "POG" is just NON-SENSE : why the hell will the SS produce this stuff ? The address of the school is even not written on it, and on the back we have what looks like a post-1945 picture of the Burgplatz of Braunschweig !
Did the SS worked for the tourist office of Braunschweig ?
I'm sure the SS volunteers will be "called by the beauty of the Burgplatz of Braunschweig" !
This can't promote anything in particular, when the SS was counting its money and was printing more efficient booklets, leaflets and postcards for its recruitment campaigns.

I also asked you to contact a professional laboratory to have your "POG" tested in every available way (composition, production method etc). You can discuss here what we may ask to the laboratory. The main question to ask is "is it pre-1945 ? and do they have any way to prove that ?".
Will you do that ?
And please post the full result.

But maybe you already know that the results will be against your will and confirm that you prefer to believe in the Loch Ness monster (and your "POG") ?

And you never explained the story about your "grandmother" finding this one...
We are listening. This is even better with a magnificient story... In the past we had so many "incredible" stories. Oh and even stuff coming from "very serious veterans" can be faked.

US Marines and US Army soldiers in the Pacific were starting to fake japanese trophies a few days after the first battles in Guadalcanal, selling fake japanese flags to the poor US Navy sailors. This is the same in Europe, you can find 3rd Reich fakes since the first battle against the Germany Army in North Africa.

If i propose you a gold bar, will you buy it from me without asking any proof ?
No, you will ask me to have it tested. And even with that, check YouTube faked small gold bars are very common. This is the same for your "POG", as we don't have any proof that it existed (and infact knowledge of the methods used by the SS for its recruitment campaign makes your "POG" even more dubious).

This is obvious that you are trying to have this stuff "aknowledged" by the WAF, to be able to sell this junk or to increase the price of it. Don't try to fool us, we can smell it since the beginning !

See You

Vince

[Kanalhose]

Hi,

I have not read a single well-founded and conclusive statement here
which could prove to me credible, that it is a bit to May 1945 ...

YOU have to PROVE that this is pre-1945, and to date you proved NOTHING, NADA, RIEN.
Give us pictures, documents from the SS archives about the recruitment campaigns, confirmed artefacts from museum etc etc.

We don't care that this is bakelite (i can give you link for dozen of european factories that can do them), we don't care about your "close shots" of the details, this prove NOTHING. I can scan you on 2400 dpi an SS-Germanische Leistungsrune in gold, this will stay a CRAP.

Therefore, like in real science, without ANY PROOF your CRAP is C-R-A-P.
Period, stop losing our time.
Your "Loch Ness item" is like the monster, it don't exist.

I gave you enough detailed infos that this was a fantasy item, it is not known that the SS made any stuff like that since 1933 ! The SS did some tinnies, but it was not like this ridiculous "POG" !
The various recruitment campaign by the SS NEVER had any crap like that, i provided the local and ultra rare specific propaganda documents made by the SS School Braunschweig.

Your "POG" is just NON-SENSE : why the hell will the SS produce this stuff ? The address of the school is even not written on it, and on the back we have what looks like a post-1945 picture of the Burgplatz of Braunschweig !
Did the SS worked for the tourist office of Braunschweig ?
I'm sure the SS volunteers will be "called by the beauty of the Burgplatz of Braunschweig" !
This can't promote anything in particular, when the SS was counting its money and was printing more efficient booklets, leaflets and postcards for its recruitment campaigns.

I also asked you to contact a professional laboratory to have your "POG" tested in every available way (composition, production method etc). You can discuss here what we may ask to the laboratory. The main question to ask is "is it pre-1945 ? and do they have any way to prove that ?".
Will you do that ?
And please post the full result.

But maybe you already know that the results will be against your will and confirm that you prefer to believe in the Loch Ness monster (and your "POG") ?

And you never explained the story about your "grandmother" finding this one...
We are listening. This is even better with a magnificient story... In the past we had so many "incredible" stories. Oh and even stuff coming from "very serious veterans" can be faked.

US Marines and US Army soldiers in the Pacific were starting to fake japanese trophies a few days after the first battles in Guadalcanal, selling fake japanese flags to the poor US Navy sailors. This is the same in Europe, you can find 3rd Reich fakes since the first battle against the Germany Army in North Africa.

If i propose you a gold bar, will you buy it from me without asking any proof ?
No, you will ask me to have it tested. And even with that, check YouTube faked small gold bars are very common. This is the same for your "POG", as we don't have any proof that it existed (and infact knowledge of the methods used by the SS for its recruitment campaign makes your "POG" even more dubious).

This is obvious that you are trying to have this stuff "aknowledged" by the WAF, to be able to sell this junk or to increase the price of it. Don't try to fool us, we can smell it since the beginning !

See You

Vince

the only thing I can smell here is that they can not properly handle it when people talk to them again ...

I have never, not even sold a post war production as an original piece in this forum

I was born in Germany and I do not know how it is in other countries, but have been here and are always prepared for every **** plaques and medals ... why should it have been different for them in the third rich

I presented the part not only in WAF, from which I have already drawn my consequences