Sleeve eagle help!!

[RodneyO]

Hi All,
Please, need some opinions on this sleeve eagle I bought as an original back in the late 80’s. Over the years I felt it was a fake until today. I saw one on a dealer’s website, it looked exactly like the one I have which got my hopes up….again. Is there any chance this one is good?

Thank you,
Rodney

[RodneyO]

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[JLS1963]

Hello Rodney, sorry but this is a fake eagle. Best, JLS

[Ludwig]

IMO it only corresponds to known fakes!

[chahler]

[Felix]

Well known fake since many years. Listed in the pinned threads of this SS part forum.

Cheers
//Felix

[RodneyO]

JLS, Ludwig, John and Felix, Thanks for your help…….
Man, got my hopes up when I saw one on the dealer’s site for sale. Wish WAF was there in the 80’s, so now it goes back into the junk/repro box…..again and there it will stay!
Felix, thanks for the heads up on the pinned thread..

[Ludwig]

First saw this piece of crappola in the mid 70´s...

[RodneyO]

Hi Ludwig,, Yup, got mines in the late 80's. I gone through the Pinned: Links to Threads of interest & importance by Gary Wood and I can't believe how well and aged some of the SS stuffs are. Gary posted several sleeve eagles (post #78-#79, #38 and #36) like mines and even with one being sewn on a piece of sleeve cloth to make it more real. Adrian Stevenson also posted one (#90), all looks the same. Scary that so many were faked, glad I didn't get into the SS stuff.... but the few I got... FAKE!!

Thanks again!!!

[Ian Hulley]

It IS a fake but appeared in a line drawing in the Bender book 'U.O. & H of the Waffen-SS' vol 1

Ian

[RodneyO]

Thank you All for your help!! here’s the other SS.. , all bought in the 80’s as originals. Glad that was all I bought…. as SS goes!

Hi Ian, is there a chance you can post the line drawing of the sleeve eagle. Maybe that is why so many were sold as original back then.

My SS fakes !!

[Ian Hulley]

Hi Ian, is there a chance you can post the line drawing of the sleeve eagle. Maybe that is why so many were sold as original back then.

Here you go ...





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Ian

[RodneyO]

Hi Ian,
Thanks for posting the pictures!! That looks very similar to my (fake) sleeve eagle. Did the SS produce this type of sleeve eagle during the war?

Here's a side by side picture..... that drawing is dead-on!!!

Aloha,

[Ian Hulley]

Did the SS produce this type of sleeve eagle during the war?

No

I have one on a fake 'SS Mountain Troops' tunic dating to the 70's I would imagine they date to the late 60's/early 70's

Ian

[RodneyO]

Thanks again Ian, you’ve been a big help. Collecting German SS memorabilia, one needed to have seen and handled many (many) original pieces, which sadly I didn’t have a chance back then. I stopped after the sleeve eagle and stayed away from SS ever since.
Please post your tunic.. how was the quality of the reproductions/fakes back then, could they have pass for originals?

Aloha,