8 Year SS Service Medal

[CurtD]

Here's the same medal from another thread. Notice this one clearly has a bad jump ring and loop. I don't know if these are die cut or cast. But, it would be very strange for an original medal to have so many different types of attachments.

[RobertE]

This is not the same medal as the one I posted, which has a beveled ring and other detail differences. It is an obvious die strike in hand, not a casting.

The ribbon crumbles, and doesn't melt when flame is applied to it.

regards, Robert

[Antonio Scapini]

...The ribbon crumbles, and doesn't melt when flame is applied to it.

regards, Robert

This could be a good point to start... These ribbons are very very hard to find originals, I don't think someone take it from an original medal to put it on a fake.

I'd like to have it in my hands, but I think again these medals should be studied better, because I have good feelings about (metal, die struck, finish, weight...).
I also tried to buy some of these medals, but I found no one (even where it seemed they were for sale).

[VonPeter]

The ribbon crumbles, and doesn't melt when flame is applied to it.

regards, Robert

A good ribbon doesn't crumble, it burns. So its still a bad ribbon, sorry.

[Antonio Scapini]

Peter, after reading your reply there's something I probably didn't understand about the ribbon...

[VonPeter]

Peter, after reading your reply there's something I probably didn't understand about the ribbon...

You expressed hope for the ribbon and I just wanted to say that it is a bad one (loops only on left side, right side is stitched).
However, it doesnt matter that much if a 5 euro service ribbon is good or not when it is a expensive SS-medal that is being discussed. But If the ribbon had the SS runes that would be a different matter.

I have seen quite a lot of repro ribbons with loops on both sides but never the contrary, a good ribbon with one side stitched.

/peter

[RobertE]

Just so I'm using the right terms, the ribbon does what a real ribbon does. It does not ball into plastic, and burns to ash. But I agree it is an inexpensive element; any wider long service ribbon works with these.

[CurtD]

This is not the same medal as the one I posted, which has a beveled ring and other detail differences. It is an obvious die strike in hand, not a casting.

The ribbon crumbles, and doesn't melt when flame is applied to it.

regards, Robert

My entire point was the difference in the loop and ring. As best I can tell from these pics, the medals are the same. What differences in details do you see?

[RobertE]

Since we can't see any detail differences from the photos you posted BUT the larger, overt details, the lack of a beveled ring and different loop are enough. They are not the same. I won't pick out the minute details I can see from the reduced-size photos you posted.

If you post larger photos of the medal you posted, we can examine it and I'll illuminate as to how it differs from the one I put up. But at this scale, it would be like arguing the shoe size of a fly.

regards, Robert