Cap top in Fall colours...
Fritz, are you out there? Go DYNAMO!
Thanks again,
Jason
Fritz, are you out there? Go DYNAMO!
Thanks again,
Jason
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I would also say that it is not an original.
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I hate any of the hats with roundhole stitched ventholes. I've seen once, but it's absolutely different from shown example. I prefer steel grommetsComment
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here is how the seam looks like, from inside. Both ends did not connected with seam as fakesComment
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Also I've never seen the hat with ventholes with insignia.Comment
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Not much time for the forum these days.Originally posted by Segeltuchtasche View Post
I am sorry but I have to agree with the negative opinions towards that cap: It is not an original.
As for machine sewn vent holes: They existed. Judging from (clear) original pictures nearly one third had machine sewn vent holes.
I agree in that I have never seen these particular vent holes before either though.
Of those cap "types" I have been able to identify in period pictures ca. : 1/3 metal grommets, 1/3 no holes at all, 1/3 machine sewn vent holes.
What has survived is a different matter and is probably related to early vs late issue and other influences.
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Originally posted by espenlaub View Post
I have to disagree here, neatly joined (or connected) ends of the sweatband are actually very much ok.
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Never seen the hats with vertical seam on the sweatband, maz be itäs exists, but invisible outside. The seam in this place is verz fat normallzComment
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Particullary 90 % owned or handled by me hats was with similar grommetsComment
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Also I have never seen the seam locates in the same place- as a thread starter direct at the back. These caps was made from the rest of the Z-Planes and Tarnacken, this material was sent to different hat factories, or to the workshops belonged to the factories ( shown hat is a Schmidt and Männer example)
This kind of sweatband has been made in this shape to keep the hat size and it's shape. All the seams and cut is made for minimize the work time.Comment
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Hi everyone,
I very much appreciate your responses to my cap... If nothing else, it has hopefully helped educate us all more...
Still, no clear answers as to why its not original period made cap... if its just the vents, then that is not much to go by I am afraid... They are so rare, that no one has seen that many - 6 handled examples is the most so far posted (Owen).
To ESPENLAUB, many thanks for your detailed responses. However, QUOTE "Also I've never seen the hat with ventholes with insignia." perhaps you mis-read the comment I made - my cap never had factory applied insignia - they were sewn on by the guy I got if from.
Construction and stitching though, if they are not right, then
could someone please PM me with the meaning of the "twist" if there is fear of giving it away to the repro makers 
As I said though, I got this near 20 years ago... Only one comment on the material - Check post #12 - the cap colours are IDENTICAL to the examples published in both Borsarello/Lessus and in Beaver's books... Exact colours, exact printing... I know Plane Tree #4 is rare, and there is no way they were making such good repro material in the 70's (the guy i got it from had owned it for 15 years) so I can trace ownership of my cap back at least 35 years! - would you all agree that it is a sewn up hat made with original Zelt material?
Summary: original material, but not original period made cap?
Thanks again guys - J.Comment
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As I' ve told above, there some mistakes in the cut of the hat, some details copied from original, but not exactly, technologically wrong.
Doesen't matter how rare is a camouflage Zplane, from one - you will get at least a couple of hats, which will be minimum 5x profit. I think they are faked in the last 20-30 years. But still not perfectComment
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