Two SS/Panzer uniforms, urgent help needed- good or awful fakes?

[Discostu]

Hi guys,

I was just offered two SS uniforms. The guy bought them 10+ years ago, and I always doubt they are real since I never trust SS stuff (even after buying lots of good books on the subject ) Both come with pants.

However, there is always a chance. Here are tons of pictures, please let me know what you think. The first one is cloth and the second is leather, looks like something you would wear in a vampire goth bar or something with bizarre looking skulls on it, please tell me its real


Sorry if they are obvious fakes and many thanks!!!

[Discostu]

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Thanks!

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Full album is here, thanks for any help

http://s1218.photobucket.com/albums/...NZER%20TUNICS/

[John Pic]

Absolute junk

[Discostu]

darnit!

I thought there would at least be some chance some parts were original on it

[Milan Gard]

[Discostu]

just for curiosity, are the stamped markings commonly/always faked, and are these jackets made of post war eastern European parts? Not pictured are the belt hangers and leather pants that came with the jacket, and looked relatively ok. My other friend had an original leather tunic which was made of spanish blue leather and the material looked quite similar. I want to turn an awful experience into a learning experience

[PANZERPIONIERE]

Horrible

[A c h t u n g !]

and just funny

[Discostu]

will tell owner to send to the eternal pits of fire

Both were purchased from Europe

[frank savage]

Hallo!

The leather wrap itself is good, own to the stuff delivered to the Kriegsmarine. I think that tabs and straps are add after the end of war...

Cheers!

[Discostu]

So after all that, there is a chance the leather jacket is ORIGINAL Kriegsmarine?

Jesus, why would someone panzerfy it?

Here are pictures of the pants and an extra belt holder that fell off the leather, I gave up hope but maybe....


Let me know guys, I really value the forum but if something is a fake I would love a few pointers

[drbill]

Leather jacket and pants appear to be original
KM issue but add ons- who knows?

[zbv500]

The leather combi is for sure real. I found a couple of these from the exact same maker locally.
Forgers always add Panzer insignia as some of these sets were apperantly issued to Panzer crews late in the war.

Jens