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    #1

    REAL Italian SS Collar Patch.........

    .....being worn. Not the 'usual' type!
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    Great photo ! Have never seen such collap patch before !

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      #3
      Robin,

      Is that the photo from a past issue 'Siegrunen' magazine? The photo looks familiar.

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        #4
        Originally posted by Steve T
        Robin,

        Is that the photo from a past issue 'Siegrunen' magazine? The photo looks familiar.
        I've never seen it in 'Siegrunen' but I have seen it in the Italian book on the Italian SS Division. It's quite a well-known picture. The officer concerned was a nobleman, Graf Pio Filippani Ronconi, who served with the 1st Sturmbrigade of the Italian SS Legion and later was adjutant to the divisional commander.
        Last edited by Robin Lumsden; 08-03-2004, 03:57 AM.

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          #5
          Hi Robin,

          I think that it is an early SS Collar Patch by Norvegian legionary .

          KR,
          Roman

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            #6
            Originally posted by Roman
            Hi Robin,

            I think that it is an early SS Collar Patch by Norvegian legionary .

            KR,
            Roman
            .........er........no.

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              #7
              What the hell kindof jacket is he wearing? Is it Italian?

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                #8
                Originally posted by Chris Boonzaier
                What the hell kindof jacket is he wearing? Is it Italian?
                Yes. It's a sahariana tunic.

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                  #9
                  Not sahariana tunic ....


                  Sahariana:
                  http://www.therupturedduck.com/WebPa...forms/u105.htm

                  KR,
                  Roman

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                    Originally posted by Roman
                    Not sahariana tunic ....


                    Sahariana:
                    http://www.therupturedduck.com/WebPa...forms/u105.htm

                    KR,
                    Roman
                    Roman.
                    The link you posted shows the German version of the Sahariana tunic. The Italian SS Officer I posted is wearing the original Italian version. There were several variants, but all were characterised by the distinctive 'yoke'.

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                      #11
                      Ok Robin,

                      I'm really interested in identification of this tunics.
                      Here you can see an Italian version of Sahariana tunic.
                      Or maybe I mistaken? And is it an Genman version for Italian fascist?
                      http://www.therupturedduck.com/WebPa...forms/u132.htm

                      KR,
                      Roman

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Roman
                        Ok Robin,

                        I'm really interested in identification of this tunics.
                        Here you can see an Italian version of Sahariana tunic.
                        Or maybe I mistaken? And is it an Genman version for Italian fascist?
                        http://www.therupturedduck.com/WebPa...forms/u132.htm

                        KR,
                        Roman
                        Roman.
                        That's an Italian one.
                        They came in different colours, with and without collars.

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                          I have seen this photo around also..Something about it always bothers me..Robin , is it possible the photo is doctored? blurry glow around everything white,maybe photo just has been reproduced so many times.?.. BUT the design on the tab looks to be spilling over bottom edge of tab!? , G.

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                            Originally posted by Gaspare
                            I have seen this photo around also..Something about it always bothers me..Robin , is it possible the photo is doctored? blurry glow around everything white,maybe photo just has been reproduced so many times.?.. BUT the design on the tab looks to be spilling over bottom edge of tab!? , G.
                            I see what you mean, but it must just be the net. The original print is crystal clear.

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                              #15
                              The arrow with the circle device is a metallic pin which is an Italian insignia. I have seen this photo and it is original. The Italians wore a large array of insignia combinations that are largely unexplained, on the SS legionaires' uniforms. I asked Rudy D'Angelo about that particular insignia and he did not understand it's wear, other than that insignia is metallic, and of Italian origin. Little record is available of the Italian SS and every Italian SS volunteer appears to have different variations and combinations of insignia.


                              Bob Hritz
                              In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king.

                              Duct tape can't fix stupid, but it can muffle the sound.

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