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    SS collar tabs placement Regulations

    Does anybody know what were regulations for SS collar tabs placement, especially for officers? I cannot really tell from period pictures if there were any regulations because some tabs are parallel to the upper edge of the collar, some to the lower edge, some to the side edge, or just all over the collar.
    Does anyone have any info on how officers were required to have their tabs on the collar (something like Heer paper below)?



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    Your photos give the answer.. stick it where it fits best
    Regards,

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      #3
      Originally posted by A c h t u n g ! View Post
      Does anyone have any info on how officers were required to have their tabs on the collar (something like Heer paper below)?
      The way it looks to me that paper doesn't indicate at all where exactly the tab has to be placed, it merely tells you about the dimensions of the tab and collar...?

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        Originally posted by Fritz View Post
        The way it looks to me that paper doesn't indicate at all where exactly the tab has to be placed, it merely tells you about the dimensions of the tab and collar...?
        That paper shows how the Heer tab is aligned along the edges of the collar (see parallel red lines). It would be good to know what was "correct" tabs allignment for SS, especially on custom-tailored/"pointed" collars.

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          #5
          I think that is irrelevant then, knowing how such technical drawings work in germany I think it has to be exactly pointed out like with the eagle. If they would have wanted it to be parallel to something then they would have made a notice (which may well be there but from the section shown nothing indicates that).

          If there is no measurements then it's up to you to put it on there nicely and according to the rules of your profession as a tailor.

          The way you have marked it it would still be possible to move the tab forth or back, left or right and it would still be parallel. This alone will result in countless variations.

          Also note that, as far as waffen-ss tunics are concerned, it was usually up to the tailor, unit tailor or men to sew the tab in place. If there was a rule it is not apparent from that drawing and your period photos show that it was, as it seems, not followed by all.

          Cheers

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            #6
            You are also comparing heer em issue with ss officer private taylored insignia.

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              #7
              Originally posted by jacquesf View Post
              You are also comparing heer em issue with ss officer private taylored insignia.
              jacquesf,
              Obviously, you didn't read my question very well. I posted Heer paper as an example of a period document that shows Heer tab placement on the collar and hoped to see a similar document about SS tabs placement, note I said "something like Heer paper below", it does not have to be a sewing-pattern diagram either, just anything from the period as simple as text only.

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                Originally posted by Fritz View Post
                The way you have marked it it would still be possible to move the tab forth or back, left or right and it would still be parallel. This alone will result in countless variations.

                Also note that, as far as waffen-ss tunics are concerned, it was usually up to the tailor, unit tailor or men to sew the tab in place. If there was a rule it is not apparent from that drawing and your period photos show that it was, as it seems, not followed by all.

                Cheers
                Fritz, thank you for your input.
                Heer tabs (on both em-issued and custom-tailored tunics) were almost always aligned/parallel to the side edge of the collar and in most cases to the upper edge too, just like on this sewing-diagram. Obviously, Heer personnel followed some rules about it.
                Contrarily, I see in period pictures that SS tabs were placed with the "rule" just like wolfslair said "stick it where it fits" - that is some tabs are parallel to the upper edge of the collar, some to the lower edge, some to the side edge, or just all over the collar and not parallel to any edge. I agree with you that if there was a rule, apparently it was, as it seems, not followed. Still I want to learn if there were official rules/Regulations regarding correct tabs placement/alignment for the SS.

                Originally posted by Fritz View Post
                The way you have marked it it would still be possible to move the tab forth or back, left or right and it would still be parallel. This alone will result in countless variations.
                A bit forth or back, left or right is OK. The question is what edge(s) of the collar should SS tab be parallel to? And what edge(s) of the collar should SS tab be closest/nearest to? - by regulations
                Last edited by A c h t u n g !; 04-20-2012, 02:45 PM.

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                  #9
                  Interesting topic and neat comparison mosaic of collar and tab shapes.
                  Note the Totenkopf division knights cross is a make shift field type,
                  in fact its an Iron Cross 2nd class!

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