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Oh sorry,...........I thought it said "SS Beagle". And that reminds me - Few people know that Irma Griese was considered the original "dog-whisperer". At the Nurnburg trials, inmates testified that she was heard whispering to her dogs under her breath......."Get 'em!!" As for the bugle, the quality of the insignia looks very poorly executed. I don't know if SS bugles exist with 2nd pattern SS eagles, but if they do, I don't think this is one of them. I vote that it's an old bugle, gussied up for the nearest gun show.
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There was this thread some time back showing special SS eagles. I think these may have been used on bugles as there is not much else. If the plating is old and uniform, I think the bugle stands a chance. Check out this thread. The eagles are thin which would stand to reason.
http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...=gold+ss+eagle
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