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    Zeldbahn Italian camo from normandy SS ??

    Hi guy , I get fewtimes ago this curious zeldbahn , It was found by myself near Lisieux in normandy with a strap stamp SS .
    I send you pictures , I'm not a german and SS collector so can you tell me more about this and the value befor sold or trade it .
    thanks guys





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      #3
      Nice example of German WWII zelt made with captured Italian camouflage material.

      Thanks for posting.
      Mark

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        (t) printed Italian Camo

        Hello,

        1st it's an nice tentquarter, these were made and even printed in Tjechoslovakia.

        After surrender of the Italians, the Leibstandarte was ordered to take all the machinery and fabrics used by the Italians to Tjechoslovakia.

        There they began to printing again the fabrics and cutted also the fabric for uniforms and tentquarters.

        The extended pieces of fabric were done because the fabric already printed were not wide printed as the German machine printers and that caused than the smaller size.

        Later the Germans did also get an limited issue of real cotton, so smaller woven fabrics were also printed and consructed in this way, mostly these style are seen with steel transparent laquered buttons, now mostly all rusted.

        Later the underlay of the Italian camo was also used as the overprint on Splinter31, mostly seen also with the extended corners, these soft black/reddish overprint (hard seen) was a improved version against Infra Red detection.

        Again a long story, but that is for those who want learn or something....

        How much you want to have for this????? PM me.

        Regards Heat242

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          #5
          thanks for this clear and complet awser , it is quite rare ? it's the first time I see one

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              Originally posted by Heat242 View Post

              Again a long story, but that is for those who want learn or something....
              Much appreciated story - and a great item .. !

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                #8
                to have an idea of the value of it ?

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                  why nobody want to tell me the value ??? and in the other side I received many many MP to buy it !

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                    I dont know why most collectors on this forum are so afraid to give out prices of things here. I see in constantly. Its no secret to them what prices of items are and what people are paying for things. These experts know the prices better than everyone. One common chicken s#@t answer I see is whatever you want to sell it for and whatever the buyer wants to pay.......not even a ball park is given.

                    Normally, its guys with these items they have that they really dont know what the value is and are trying to sell or get an idea of the price. I guess these "experts" dont want to say hoping they can get something cheaper.

                    Seems so stupid to me but whatever...................

                    I have purchased 3 of these zelts - one at 150 euro which was not in as good condition as your. Normally on ebay I see ones comparable to yours sell for around 250 - 350 euros.

                    Hope that helps
                    Mark

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                      #11
                      I have a square one (more common?) it was only 85 euro's on the same fair there was a triangle one for same price btw

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                        #12
                        I have seen these range between $150 - $300 US. I paid $200 US for mine a few years ago, it was used and a bit faded as expected. However, be aware that this camo material was produced by the Italian Military post-war.

                        Cheers,

                        Asper

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                          thanks guys

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                            HaHAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!

                            Originally posted by von der heyte View Post
                            why nobody want to tell me the value ??? and in the other side I received many many MP to buy it !
                            Oohh, quit with this,

                            I send you an PM, and you say 150,- and than have another one, asking pic's never received!

                            IMO you want to push up the price, if you asking €150,-, thats normal price, did you expected a Plane tree camo print price for this?!

                            Let me clear this, Yes it's a nice piece and with some nice background info regarding the Italian camo, but this camo and print and German style tentquarter are 1st not an scarce item, and are still easy to get.
                            2nd my interest is gone.

                            Wish you a top dollar price for this.

                            Regards, Heat242.

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                              #15
                              I bought 2 examples for less then 90 euro each. They are not so rare. This one has also an angle in a different camo shade. So it could be less atractive.

                              regards

                              Erwin

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