SS Panzer Grouping .

[Hardigan]

Nice paperwork indeed ! But it's obvious that the wrapper is not the one in the portraitphoto , sorry .

[sjl]

Diferent EKII button hole ribbon (easily swapped by the original owner), but the shape and orientation of the finest details of the rank tab are an exact match. I think CSI would find it the same tunic based on the photo.

[Dr. Strangelove]

Mystery Machine

Uh oh Scooby, dat aint da same Wrap. That collar on the original and lapel flap are way thicker. Somebody convince me I am wrong. I want to be wrong.

[Bob Hritz]

Comparing a photo of a tunic in wear with one laying flat is very difficult. I would suggest trying to pose the tunic, on a mannequin or model, and see if it matches up. To me, it looks the same.

Bob Hritz

[Dr. Strangelove]

agree

I agree, it needs to be put on a Mannequinn and buttoned up.

[Anders S]

Now this is a real treat to see..thank you.

Agreed!

[DKNYC71]

Nice paperwork indeed ! But it's obvious that the wrapper is not the one in the portraitphoto , sorry .

Unless my eyes fail me, I have to agree that there is no way that the wrapper in the photo is the same as the one posted.

[Richard P]

Bob Hritz nailed it. I also believe the wrap has to be posed on a mannequin or torso form at the very least. Then you have to find the exact position and angle at which the photo was taken. I have had the same experience where I have a photo of the guy in his uniform and it doesn't even come close laying flat. Until you pose it in the exact same position and positioned on a body as close to the same size as the wearer as you can get. Then post side by side shots and make a judgment call.

[Lorenz]

Could be interesting also see a detailed picture of the rayon strings, from the picture posted they dont seams to be correct...

[Erwin L]

The space between the runes is on the picture bigger then on the wrapper. On the picture the space is smaller.

I think the pictured wrap is not the same and that the difference stays when you put it on a mannequin.

The documents are great.


regards Erwin

[Steve P]

The space between the runes is on the picture bigger then on the wrapper. On the picture the space is smaller.

I think the pictured wrap is not the same and that the difference stays when you put it on a mannequin.

The documents are great.


regards Erwin

Seems to be correct mate!

[Ludwig]

Once again: excellent grouping. Nice Saalbach signatures in the Soldbuch! As you propably alreadty know, Rudolf Saalbach later became commander of the SS-Panzeraufklärungsabteilung 11 "Nordland" and was also awarded the Knight´s Cross.
The tunic is not the same as on the photo. No way. But have you been told that it should be?

[rob NL]

Hi guys , just got back from a short ( too short ) holiday , I think that there has been a slight mixup , maybe that I am too blame also .
the picture I posted is a painting of him wearing it .
I think that the used a original photo to make it , or that he posed for it , cant tell .
I thought that you guys saw it , but now I realize that you couldnt see the size of the painting in my photo that I posted , sorry for the confusion !

[rob NL]

Once again: excellent grouping. Nice Saalbach signatures in the Soldbuch! As you propably alreadty know, Rudolf Saalbach later became commander of the SS-Panzeraufklärungsabteilung 11 "Nordland" and was also awarded the Knight´s Cross.
The tunic is not the same as on the photo. No way. But have you been told that it should be?

Hi Ludwig , I saw that it was a painting , and I knew that this is the way it came from the family , so I am not concerned , thanks for the compliment !

[rob NL]

I will try to get a bust to display it on to see the wrapper on the same angle