Dave,
IMHO what you have to do is compare your title or any other 6 strand title to know original 7 stand titles, the "D" I saw was identical other than the 6 strand border, and I do mean identical, the same type of band even the stitch count, the embroidery was also identical in every way, even down to where the cross over was between letters
There is much debate about 6 verses 7 strand borders on waffen-ss cuff titles and the field is a nightmare and for a novice who wants to buy a cuff title my advice would be buy one with 7 strand borders, not that these are not copied because they are but they are easy to spot.
2 recent books compare 6-7 strand cuff titles although the 6 strand titles used to illustrate the fakes are some of the worst 6 strand bands and not a fair comparison, in the same 2 books there is mention of a German dealer who bought a lot of items from Czechoslovakia, I know the dealer personally and he had a lot of original items but quite a percentage of fake items as well and he never professed to being an expert on ss cloth items he is quite a straight forward guy and has said to me many times if you see anything fake in what I am offering please tell me, although in the books it is implied that he is an expert in this field which he has never made claim to, I have some photocopies somewhere of ss items he sold up I will look them out , as i mention it is a mix of good and bad .
David,
the guy you are talking about was "ken lane", his titles were spot on but had 6 strand borders, and as these bands were made by a firm that did manufacture cloth items during the war so the quality of the embroidery was just as good as the wartime examples, the quality later was not as good as the early bands he had made, and i think these early bands from the 60's are not resurfacing with genuine age to them, also nothing would glow under UV light and nothing would melt,
There are original pre-war titles with less than 6 strands but that is another story altogether,
cheers,
gary
IMHO what you have to do is compare your title or any other 6 strand title to know original 7 stand titles, the "D" I saw was identical other than the 6 strand border, and I do mean identical, the same type of band even the stitch count, the embroidery was also identical in every way, even down to where the cross over was between letters
There is much debate about 6 verses 7 strand borders on waffen-ss cuff titles and the field is a nightmare and for a novice who wants to buy a cuff title my advice would be buy one with 7 strand borders, not that these are not copied because they are but they are easy to spot.
2 recent books compare 6-7 strand cuff titles although the 6 strand titles used to illustrate the fakes are some of the worst 6 strand bands and not a fair comparison, in the same 2 books there is mention of a German dealer who bought a lot of items from Czechoslovakia, I know the dealer personally and he had a lot of original items but quite a percentage of fake items as well and he never professed to being an expert on ss cloth items he is quite a straight forward guy and has said to me many times if you see anything fake in what I am offering please tell me, although in the books it is implied that he is an expert in this field which he has never made claim to, I have some photocopies somewhere of ss items he sold up I will look them out , as i mention it is a mix of good and bad .
David,
the guy you are talking about was "ken lane", his titles were spot on but had 6 strand borders, and as these bands were made by a firm that did manufacture cloth items during the war so the quality of the embroidery was just as good as the wartime examples, the quality later was not as good as the early bands he had made, and i think these early bands from the 60's are not resurfacing with genuine age to them, also nothing would glow under UV light and nothing would melt,
There are original pre-war titles with less than 6 strands but that is another story altogether,
cheers,
gary
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