LF officer with LAH cufftitle

[pimpf]

Hello! Any explanation can be given by this photo, where LF officer wears SS LAH cufftitle? Who is this?

[bnz. 42]

Only one explanation can be given - he is drunk!

On more serious note, transfered to LW from SS

[J. Hahn]

I think he could be serving as pilot for a high ranking member of the LAH.

[Robin Lumsden]

Luftwaffe pilots and also Luftwaffe artillery officers were sometimes attached to SS units.

It's unusual for the SS cuff title to be worn though.

[jacquesf]

I think it was post 1945 attached. Jacques

[J. Hahn]

I knew I had seen this one before - it's from Brian L Davis: Uniforms and Insignia of the LW Vol 2, page 102.
The guy is described as an unknown Hauptmann, possibly attached to the Führer headquarters as pilot.

[Vinland]

i believe it is this man, LW liason with LSSAH members, in this photo, linked below, pretty sure, the same man:

http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtop...hlight=siebken

he's #31 in the group photo.

[besslein]

I think he could be serving as pilot for a high ranking member of the LAH.

yes I agree

[Texasuberalles]

It could be that the cufftitle is the Adolf Heunlein (spelling) cufftitle from the NSKK as well. The "Adolf' in both it and the LAH appear the same as I recall.

[François B.]

I think he could be serving as pilot for a high ranking member of the LAH.

I agree also......

And it is a LAH cufftitle IMO...

[bnz. 42]

i believe it is this man, LW liason with LSSAH members, in this photo, linked below, pretty sure, the same man:

http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtop...hlight=siebken

he's #31 in the group photo.

No, not the same man (compare yourself).

[François B.]

And what about nr.29......?

He has a bit the same eye look....

[Vinland]

bnz- yup, stand corrected. not the same guy. same set of circumstances perhaps, not same guy.

[NickG]

Pilots attached to LSAH

I've seen this before. I believe the explanation is that LSAH and possibly other (elite) units were assigned Fischler Storch aircraft flown of course by Luftwaffe pilots, who were temporarily attached to such ground units for reconnaissance and/or artillery spotting missions.

Such pilots (Beobachtungsflieger) were essentialy detached from the Luftwaffe, as they took their orders directly from these ground units and therefor were allowed their adopted unit's cuff titles, which I imagine were only worn for the duration of their assignment and attachment to that unit...
This is a theory I have and could very well be an unofficial practice with no regulations on entitlement of such cuff titles as these pilots (and their equipment) were on loan...as it would be a temporary assignment for a particular mission!

I believe LSAH and Prinz Eugen both had this arrangement with the Luftwaffe. Prinz Eugen even had the Odal rune emblem painted on the nose cowling of their Fischler Storch aircraft. I can imagine with partisan warfare especially, that such aircraft came in handy! Nick

[Askold]

Galicia division also had a Fisilier type plane during its anti-partizan actions, the pilot however wore standard Waffen SS uniform.